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Ryan Girdusky clashed with British-American journalist Mehdi Hasan on Monday night.

CNN has banned a conservative commentator from appearing on the network again after he told a Muslim journalist "I hope your beeper doesn't go off," an apparent reference to the spate of exploding pagers in Lebanon that killed members of the Hezbollah militant group last month. 

Ryan Girdusky made the comment during a heated debate with Mehdi Hasan, a prominent British-American broadcaster and an outspoken critic of Israel's war in Gaza, on "CNN Newsnight" with host Abby Phillip. 

The guests were discussing the racist jokes made by comedian Tony Hinchcliffe, which overshadowed former President Donald Trump's rally at New York's Madison Square Garden on Sunday and continue to make headlines two days later.

As the debate turned fractious, Girdusky and Hasan sparred over whether the latter had been labeled an anti-Semite. "I'm a supporter of the Palestinians, I'm used to it," Hasan said.

Girdusky replied: "Well I hope your beeper doesn't go off."

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[–] [email protected] 298 points 2 days ago (24 children)

I'm still flabbergasted that there hasn't been more of an international outrage concerning those pagers.

The use of mines as an indiscriminate weapon are already frowned upon,

And here they are using them, scattered throughout a civilian population with absolutely no regard to who could be standing next to their target.

Un-fucking believable.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago

Wait.. what?

I'm I reading that right?

12 people killed. 6 of which were 2 children and 4 healthcare workers.

But 2,800 wounded? So all of that wasn't even about neutralizing targets, but maiming?

How many were set off? I have a hard time believing a 12killed : 2800wounded ratio...

EDIT: Google says bout 5000 pagers

CNN: reports 37killked but 3,000 wounded.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The only people who had those pagers were Hezbollah members. Hezbollah has been lobbing missiles into Israel, killing civilians including children and forcing an evacuation. They picked a fight, why should there be an expectation that Israel just sits back and takes it? Don't get me wrong about Gaza, they have gone way too far there. But Hezbollah seems at least somewhat justified.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 59 minutes ago

The only people who had those pagers were Hezbollah members.

Did they have camera's in them to know that? and also know about people in the surrounding area?

Hezbollah has been lobbing missiles into Israel, killing civilians including children and forcing an evacuation.

And you think this is the appropriate response to that?

I get the Israeli people are absolutely tired of this shit. But what makes them think that kind of response isn't going to do anything other than bolster the other sides hatred/resolve?

As they indiscriminately kill more, they are recruiting more to the cause. When someone loses their kids/brother/father/home/etc. That just makes them having nothing more to lose, and join the war. People don't want to fight. People just want to live their lives.

Israel is the one with all the weapons/tech/money in this. If the Israeli people are tired of this shit, they need to look at a leader who's not going to perform actions that just increases Hezbollah's and Hamas's numbers.

[–] [email protected] 167 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They bombed dozens of hospitals and orphanages across two countries and also started a starvation siege since that time.

There is no outrage left

[–] skittle07crusher 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is no outrage left

This really hit me. As in maybe it explains some things since the internet was created. It’s indeed so hard to keep up.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s indeed so hard to keep up.

I know it's different, but that reminds me of the Gish gallop.

"The Gish gallop is a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm an opponent by presenting an excessive number of arguments, with no regard for their accuracy or strength, with a rapidity that makes it impossible for the opponent to address them in the time available."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

That's called desensitization.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

And I'm so numb to it, i don't even notice anymore.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh no... Israel is doing the Gish gallop but for human rights atrocities... this explains it perfectly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Yup with both parties supporting it. Such a grand time.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There hasn't been outrage because blowing up people with pagers is actually the most targeted thing Israel has done in the past year. Certainly a step up from killing hundreds of refugees to maybe take out one hamas guy.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago

They killed children in that pager attack. Which I guess is part for the course, so ya, nevermind, you might be right.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There has been minimal pushback to the Israeli apartheid regime and decades long genocide in Palestine. You think a few more deaths are going to inspire real international action?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (39 children)

Not mines, IEDs. It was an indiscriminate terrorist attack on a civilian population using improvised explosive devices.

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