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More than 100 Arizona Palestinian, Arab, Muslim, and progressive Democrats and community leaders have signed a letter making the case for those reluctant to support Kamala Harris against Donald Trump.

“We know that many in our communities are resistant to vote for Kamala Harris because of the Biden administration’s complicity in the genocide,” the letter, published Thursday night, reads.

“Some of us have lost many family members in Gaza and Lebanon. We respect those who feel they simply can’t vote for a member of the administration that sent the bombs that may have killed their loved ones,” the letter continued. “As we consider the full situation carefully, however, we conclude that voting for Kamala Harris is the best option for the Palestinian cause and all of our communities.”

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Extracting that statement is perfectly fine because it's the one point that Harris supporters can't get through their thick skulls. It is actually possible to make the case to vote for Harris without directing preachy paternalistic bullshit at people who have lost the lives of friends and family to this administration.

I realize fully the threat Trump is, and I'm reluctantly voting Harris myself. I want Harris to win, and I see you preachy morons driving other potential Harris voters away and it's maddening. You self-righteous assholes need to get a fucking clue. Please go do something useful like read a book on the art of persuasion until this election is over because you're not helping.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Way ahead of you. When trying to persuade, you need to know your audience. I'm going door to door canvassing, and having conversations with voters that have these concerns. Those conversations, meeting people one-on-one with empathy, has a profound effect.

In contrast, here, I was responding to someone who was obviously acting in bad faith. I'm not trying to convince that person, but making sure others observing the conversation don't feel gaslit and second-guess the reality others are trying to distort.

I'm not as dense as I might appear. However, I do appreciate you calling me out so we can have a conversation like this. It's important, and it helps us all learn and grow.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

I don't share the same read on that comment, but it appears you are more reasonable than I gave you credit for. Thank you for your door to door work for the cause.

[–] Rekorse 2 points 3 weeks ago

You can't just call someone else's perspective bad faith because you can't understand how they might legitimately hold it. Do you expect others to treat your perspective that way?

Its nice that you canvas but its irrelevant as well, especially so since you state you treat people differently depending if they are face to face or not.

The original quote stuck out to me too, because its the part noone on this website will say to someone who's voting third party.

You say gas lighting and bad faith like you have any idea their intent. If I were to use the same standard what is top stop me from declaring your posts bad faith as well?