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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago (4 children)

We really need a collection of verifiable trump facts as there are so many.

This is pretty much worthless to anyone that is currently maga. There are no such things as facts that come from outside of their leaders mouth. A sycophant who defends him today, is a "secret liberal" tomorrow if he says something that goes against Trump. They won't believe anything they don't want to.

The only people that matter are those "on the fence" that are Republicans but don't want Trump. If they only stick to fox news though they'll never get these "facts." :(

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean much of it did come out of his mouth.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

True, for those instances "he was kidding, stop being dramatic." Or "he didn't actually mean that, he meant (whatever makes him not sound crazy)!" :(

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

which is what is so crazy. its not even about if something is true now. its just, meh, I don't care.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The only facts these people believe are Alternative Facts^tm^

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

There are no such things as facts that come from outside of their leaders mouth.

Except when he says stuff that they don't like, in which case they say "oh, he didn't really mean it."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't worry about convincing the magas or even non-maga Republicans. Non-voters are much bigger issue, but also a bigger potential for reasoning.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think the biggest issue with them is the apathy that keeps them from voting in the first place. I can't even convince my own mother or step father to vote at all because "they're all the same" as far as corruption goes... :(

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's still a good opening for you to choose any topic important to you or them to talk about.

"both are the same" is mostly used as an excuse for being ignorant. Simply speaking your opinion might be enough for them to show support for you, if they're supporting parents.

If my child came to me asking me to take a stance in the school board election, I most definitely would, because I don't give a shit about school board elections.