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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Funny, because not too long ago I saw a bunch of HBs and MLs going on about how "the libs can't go more than one comment chain without wishing death and torture on anyone not voting like them"

Now who else do I know of where every accusation is a confession... Or projection, if you will.

Seems like a lot of them like to Gaslight, Obstruct AND Project.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I've always felt this way about tankies and the horseshoe theory in general. Conservatism spawned from the "Bourgeoise"; all the religious lords and landowners who profited from, and supported, monarchs and authoritarian rule. Tankie belief systems align with that "bourgeoise" perfectly.

The concept of authoritarian socialism is a contradiction. Without democracy, freedom of thought, and freedom of person — from fear of retribution for wrongthink — the workers never had a say; never "seized" control of anything. Tankies are nothing more than a continuation of the authoritarian rule that came before them. Both Hitler and Trump have said they represent the wprking class. Saying you represent the working class is meaningless. You need to prove it with your actions.

Ultimately tankies are closer to the Tsars, Kings, and colonialism they replaced, than they are to the concept of freedom and equality for the working class. They just want to be the oppressor, and probably believe that communism is the best chance they have to ever be in a position to fulfil that role.

[–] goat 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I agree, though I think they latch onto communism as a sign of virtue signalling.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Sprinkle in a healthy dose of AstroTurf and you get a nice little cult growing.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hexbear users very literally threatening to kill me is one (just one) of the reasons I hate that instance. The .ml instances aren't much better.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

.ml is just the public facing arm of the same terroristic people. An example is "Sinn Féin" from the IRA times.