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it is taught in American schools.
did you just learn about the trail of tears?
That's Canadian, the US doesn't refer to indigenous Americans as "First Nations". Native American is still the academic go-to south of the border.
Academic circles have preferred “American Indian” for a couple decades now. You still see “Native American” in lower-level materials (undergraduate and below), though.
It's mixed at best, there's no universal consensus for either one in academic circles, especially once you get to international audiences. Of course there's no universal preference among indigenous people either, so the best bet is not to talk about indigenous peoples as if they're a monolith and instead use narrower terms for just the groups you're discussing.
Friend of mine got a degree in Anthropology and spent a good amount of time writing academic paper about US tribes, which required visiting different groups and interviewing them.
He said that while there was a push from academia about 30-40 years ago to refer to indigenous peoples as Native American, he said that has been completely abandoned. The reason being is that the actual Native Americans don’t consider themselves American, nor does Indian describe them as these are Anglo Colonizer words.
When referring to themselves they will either go by the name of their tribe or they say they are Indian, because when they speak English they use English words to describe themselves.
Academics don't care what you call other people. They aren't pushing anyone to do anything, except perhaps for people in their fields to recognize their novel, useful ideas.
All that matters to the academy is what peers are calling something. And that basically boils down to trends in language and the decisions the editors in chief of a few influential journals and a few influential authors in whatever field. You can say whatever you want. If you submit a paper for publication though they're probably going to change yours to their own preferred usage.
Yep, cool, I just meant trend, maybe ‘push’ was a poor choice of words.
Also.... yikes. The indigenous people were just like "no, no it's cool, take our land, we've been wanting a smaller settlement anyway "
The trail of tears was from Florida to Oklahoma. We "gave" them Oklahoma and it was referred to as indaian territory
Then a few years later we took Oklahoma back from them, lol, and opened up the land runsl. I live in Oklahoma and the trail of tears was drilled into our heads throughout the years in public schools. Are they not teaching it anymore??
Either way we seriously fucked over a bunch of tribes. Seminole, Cherokee etc
They absolutely still teach the Trail of Tears in American schools, I don't know why everyone still thinks it's this big coverup.
looks like an older Canadian textbook, not US.
trail of tears is a centerpiece in any section on native American history in US schools.
Yeah having lived in both countries, until recently the US was miles ahead in admitting its wrongs on Indigenous people. Things are starting to change here but I was amazed when I first moved to Canada how few knew the history.
Lol that fails to mention that guns were aimed at them when they “agreed.”
You may want to actually read the book you're using.
Can you share what book you got this from?