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Yes.
I am voting for Kamala, she has 100% of the votes I control.
But we are talking about how to get the most other people to vote her.
We can do that by screaming at them that they should, but we'd have to do that to tens of millions of people.
Or...
We could try and get Kamala to move to the left, which would get her more votes and the added benefit of better policy.
Like, which do you think would be more effective?
And I don't know know why I have to keep saying this: I'm already voting D, we're talking about the people who aren't.
It’s too late in the game. Some people are either lost causes, or had no intention to ever vote for her to begin with. I’d wager there are VERY FEW fence-sitters that remain at this point- and that is because all EVERONE needs to know about this election is readily available. That they either deny it as truth and refuse to accept it as reality is irrelevant.
They know what we’re up against. So becaue they’re withholding their vote in spite of the facts- they’re putting a LOT of innocent people against the wall because of their protest. This isn’t up for debate. People WILL suffer under Trump.
And as many others have said- most of these people didn’t even know where Palestine was a year ago. Now they’re willing to sacrifice the freedom of their fellow Americans so they can make a stand?
Every election year this happens. Different things, same result.
You keep saying that....
It's what people said about replacing Biden too, then we replaced Biden.
Kamala has up till the last vote is cast to try and beat Trump, not a second earlier is "too late".
Even if it's after the election tho, we can't just pay attention once every four years and hope things magically got better.
It's an ongoing neverending fight, so by definition it's literally never "too late".
The lobbyists never stop, the fascists never stop, why do you want the people to stop?
Fair enough, but I’d wager she has a lot more understanding of how things work than a bunch of random outraged people in a far corner social media platform.
But if you think your suggesting what she do to earn their votes will actually eat their votes despite the fact that they’re not going to vote for her regardless of what she does…
Who am I to stop you.
Because if it’s not genocide, it’ll be something else. I guarantee it. They do this shit every election.
100,000,000 people didn’t vote in 2016. Let that sink in. How many of them were butthurt and outraged single issue idealists do you think?
Enough to change the outcome?
Except we're talking about potential Harris voters, and they're not exactly being shy about what they want...
Yes, it's not just one single issue, I've listed a bunch of different examples already....
Yes, and it should scare the shit out of everyone that the same people who ran the DMC and Dem campaign in 2016 are running the DNC and campaign in 2024 and doing the same stupid shit.
We agree on what's important.
You're just blaming voters, and I'm blaming the people running the party and campaign.
They’re not potential votes. That’s my point. Look. I’ll say it one last time:
Every election year this happens. And every election year it’s the same thing. If it’s not genocide, it’s something else.
If this were six months ago, I’d be right there with you. But we’re done now. It’s less than a month away. All that’s left are the willfully ignorant, the easily outraged, and MAGA trolls.
I'm sorry I couldn't explain this in a way you could understand, I thought we were almost there.
Ditto.