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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Interesting how everyone blames the people and not the corporate party that doesn't represent the people. If Democrats are struggling to get leftist votes then I suggest they do things that will make leftists vote for them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I don't understand what is so difficult to grasp... In a first past the post system, a candidate that panders to leftists will never win. Not in the current political climate at least.

Conservatives line up behind their chosen candidate, but the left can never agree on fucking anything. And conservatives vote.

So we have a situation where only two parties can emerge, and the person representing the left-leaning party (relatively speaking, I know Democrats are not really "left" in general) has a to walk a tightrope in order to get elected. It is impossible for them to please every faction or individual leftist opinion, and trying to do so would end in certain failure.

Harris could very much be privately supportive of Palestine, but if she were to openly condemn Israel prior to the election, she will 100% lose. Yes, that is shitty, but that is reality right now. That's what needs to be changed, and it doesn't happen one month before the most important election this country has ever had.

So if you want a Democratic candidate to pander to progressives, then progressives need to make themselves impossible to ignore when there is not an election of this importance going on. That's how you move the party to the left. Vote down ballot, vote in local elections, organize for progressives candidates, etc.

But until we get rid of this bullshit first past the post system, voting for anybody besides a Democrat or a Republican is an objective waste.

[–] Rekorse 3 points 2 months ago

You say she loses of she supports Palestine, we say she loses if she doesnt. Maybe theres something she could do between those extremes like say halt weapon shipments once she takes office pending review.

Apparently the bet is that the jewish group is bigger than the third party anti-war group.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Ho Chi Minh knew all about America's long history of genocide and slavery.

Happily worked with the Americans in WW2.

You don't always have perfect allies.