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Maybe EVs are not a comprehensive climate solution??

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Perhaps there should be policies in place to lower the cost of electric cars so more average income people can replace their ice cars?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Perhaps the tax credit should be down payment assistance of the same value for those who purchase the EV if they have a household income below 150k. Maybe limit it to vehicles below a certain total cost as well.

Up front cost is a bigger road block than taxes.

[–] spidermanchild 4 points 2 months ago

Aren't your just describing the current credit? There's a mechanism for the dealer to provide the incentive at the time of purchase vs during tax filing the following year. There's also an income limit for eligibility.

That being said, the whole point is to move battery supply chains to the US, not to actually make cheap cars for folks.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps there should be policies to even out the wealth distribution.

[–] threelonmusketeers 1 points 2 months ago

Yes, but that's not specific to EVs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is why I'm frustrated with the US and the EU, who are placing heavy penalty tariffs on Chinese EVs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Uyghur slave labor should not be seen as the solution to our emission problems. Tariffs are the right thing here, albeit for the wrong reasons.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

That is a very good point I had not considered, thanks for pointing that out!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Exactly. I don't drive an EV because I can't afford one. That's literally the only reason. I'd like to have one.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Can also eliminate all corporate offices, if your job can be done on a computer, there shouldn’t be an office. Unless you need to be physically at your job, no need for you to be commuting at all.

The concept of corporate buildings isn’t even that old.