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They line up in front of a courthouse in southeastern France, from morning to evening, and have gathered in the thousands in cities across the country. They hold signs reading, "one rape every six minutes," "not all men but always a man," and "giving in is not consenting."

They chant: "Rapist we see you, victim we believe you."

Women across France are rallying in support of Gisèle Pelicot, a 72-year-old reluctant icon whose husband is on trial in the city of Avignon for systematically drugging her and inviting dozens of men, 50 of whom are now his co-defendants, into their home to rape her over nearly a decade.

The shocking case has sparked what many women in France call a long-overdue reckoning over "rape culture" and systemic sexism in the way the judicial system handles sexual violence.

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[–] AllHailTheSheep 25 points 1 month ago (46 children)

imagine taking this story, about where a woman was systematically drugged and raped for OVER 10 YEARS, and going "ah yes but what about the men?!?". I truly feel for the men in the comments sharing their stories, and I hope they continue to share and raise awareness, but Jesus y'all not the time

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

Yeah exactly. I'm a man who was assaulted as a kid by a woman. Shit happens. But looking at what shit happens most often - it's sexual violence perpetrated by men against women.

I don't know how we change that. Maybe by continuing to level up the power dynamic between men and women, I feel like we've been making some progress with that over the past century. Finally. But it's more than that, there are too many idiot arseholes who think they can have anything their fists can beat down. Almost all of them are men.

Pretty much every girlfriend and female friend I've ever had has had bad experiences with men. Women I have cared about over the years have had experiences across the spectrum from cat calling and comments back when they were kids in school uniforms all the way through to stranger rape. Domestic violence isn't uncommon either.

I dunno, I wish I had a solution. It fuckin breaks my heart - when a close friend or a partner opens up about what happened to her and there's nothing you can do, it's years too late, you have these thoughts like if I'd been there I could have stopped it- but it happened years ago and you are fuckin helpless to do anything except maybe hug her if she's comfortable with that, or if not try to tell her it's over, she's safe and stronger now, whatever you think might help.

You don't realise how harmful sexual assault is until you've been unable to help someone you love. The key word isn't 'sexual', it's 'assault'.

Shit like that makes me fuckin ashamed to be a bloke. I don't know how we fix this, but I've got two suggestions for a good start - firstly, we don't do that shit. Never, there's never an excuse. Secondly, we fuckin shut down other guys, even if they're our mates, if they start with that sort of talk.

Yeah, there's wrong uns in whatever gender. But in terms of atrocity it's us men well in the lead. We gotta change that. I think we can at least fuckin try.

[–] AllHailTheSheep 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

thanks for being one of the reasonable ones in this comment section lol. and it seems you're doing a pretty good job of trying to enact change. keep it up, it's a team effort :)

sorry to hear about your story as well, hope everything is going well for you now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cheers, yeah I've kinda grown into my own shit. It's caused me a lot of problems over the years, but I'm getting old now and I'm okay with stuff.

I'm just saying that anyone can get hurt like that, but it's mostly women getting hurt and it's mostly men doing the hurting. We've got to fuckin stop doing that because it is profoundly wrong.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lol does it feel good that they literally called you "one of the good ones?"

Personally I think that's pretty wild, imagine saying that to a black person lol. I'd frankly be upset by that ~~if I were you~~ wait I am upset about it lol, look at me being one of those uppity men again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They said reasonable ones, not good ones. Those words have two different meanings. Don't put words in their mouth.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mmhmm, and if I told my friend (who is black, important note) that I like him because he's one of "the reasonable ones," that would be tooootally normal and not racist at all right? Right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ooooooooooooooooooookaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's interesting to see what gets excused is all, but don't worry I'm sure you're one of the good ones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you like piano solos arcane slime

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Sure why not? Jazz is pretty sweet. You?

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