this post was submitted on 04 Oct 2024
1253 points (98.7% liked)
Political Memes
5483 readers
2033 users here now
Welcome to politcal memes!
These are our rules:
Be civil
Jokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.
No misinformation
Don’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.
Posts should be memes
Random pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.
No bots, spam or self-promotion
Follow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I agree it should be separated, but that doesn't make it bad data. Unless you don't know how to read tables, but that's more of an individual problem than an issue with the information provided.
It's bad data because it's used as a contention point to make people think mass shootings happen ever 4 seconds or a school shooting every day. When this is completely incorrect. We get pissed at scientist who indulge in their papers, but this gets a pass?
Nope, bad data is incorrect data. This is not incorrect, we just don't like the way it's presented.
This is incorrect data. An adult who gets charged with possession of a firearm near a school, is not a school incident. That's not just badly presented, it's completely incorrect.
This is not incorrect data, that is the definition of a school incident. A firearm was found in or near a school. It is not a school shooting, but every school shooting begins with a school incident because it is not possible to shoot in a school without a gun near or in the school.
But this data is not being presented in its entirety as school shooting data, in any instance you've cited. Only the data for incidents which involved a shooting in a school is presented as school shooting data.
A school incident involves school personnel. Do you classify a wreck that happened near a school as a school incident as well? You do know how many schools are directly in neighborhoods right?
No it's not, it's actively used constantly by anti2a groups. There is a reason mother jones, one of the most antigun journals out there, called out the data.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/12/no-there-were-not-355-mass-shootings-this-year/