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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago (19 children)

On the ballot in 19 states totalling 220 electoral college votes.

Who wants to tell them you need 270 to win?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballot_access_in_the_2024_United_States_presidential_election

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 hours ago (13 children)

Do you think they are running because they expect to win? Are you familiar at all with the Marxist view of Electoralism?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They aren't going to end capitalism if they don't win.

The best they can hope to do is take votes away from Harris ensuring a Trump win, which is 180° the opposite of their message.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

So no, you aren't familiar with the Marxist stance on Electoralism. For reference, they are Marxists.

No, they do not need to win the election to end Capitalism. Participation in bourgeois elections is to delegitimize the system (such as pointing out Dem/Rep collusion to kick them off the balot in Georgia), and advertise their platform.

Marxists believe revolution is necessary and electoralism is a sham.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That sounds like a way to get a lot of people killed and end up worse than how you started.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Historically, Marxist revolutions have dramatically improved conditions.

[–] Grebes 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

You'd have to be a bit silly to think the Tsarist regime was better for Russia, the nationalist Kuomintang for China, the fascist slaver Batista for Cuba, etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I went to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_revolution and clicked on the most recent successful entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepalese_Civil_War

The civil war was characterized by numerous war crimes and crimes against humanity, including summary executions, massacres, purges, kidnappings, and mass rapes. It resulted in the deaths of over 17,000 people, including civilians, insurgents, and army and police personnel; and the internal displacement of hundreds of thousands of people, mostly throughout rural Nepal.

That's not great.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Survivorship bias, after we murdered everyone that was having a bad time everyone was having a great time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

You'll notice that the government did far more of the killing than the Communist revolutionaries. And, like I said, metrics are improving since overthrowing the previous regime.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They do need to win an election to end capitalism, because they have no power unless they win.

They can literally do absolutely nothing to accomplish their goal unless they win, but then since they mathematically can't win either, all they can do is yell impotently into the void.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Which part of "revolution is necessary and electoralism is a sham" was difficult for you?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They aren't running for a revolution, if they were, they wouldn't be on the ballot for an election.

It's all performative nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I'll just copy and paste my earlier explanation, hope it makes sense for you this time:

Participation in bourgeois elections is to delegitimize the system (such as pointing out Dem/Rep collusion to kick them off the balot in Georgia), and advertise their platform.

Marxists believe revolution is necessary and electoralism is a sham.

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