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Study uncovers vivid and poignant accounts of reefs as high as houses off countries including UK, France and Ireland

Only a handful of natural oyster reefs measuring at most a few square metres cling on precariously along European coasts after being wiped out by overfishing, dredging and pollution.

A study led by British scientists has discovered how extensive they once were, with reefs as high as a house covering at least 1.7m hectares (4.2m acres) from Norway to the Mediterranean, an area larger than Northern Ireland.

The study involved dozens of researchers poring over government records, nautical charts, fishery reports, customs documents, naturalists' accounts, scientific journals and newspapers from the 18th, 19th and early 20th centuries to piece together the spread of the European flat oyster (Ostrea edulis).

They found vivid -- and poignant -- accounts of often sprawling reefs at 1,196 locations off countries including the UK, France, Ireland, Denmark, Spain, Germany and the Netherlands. One report from a scientific article mentioned oyster reefs reaching 7 metres in height in the Black Sea.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What's crazy to me is that everyone wins when oysters are abundant. The ocean gets cleaned up and capitalists can sell them for a ton of money, it's such a win win to keep oyster populations in good shape.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The point of capitalism as a system is to create scarcity and crisis and then profit off of it. Stability and abundance are existential threats to the ruling class.

Why would a rich capitalist who owns seafood company give a shit how few oysters are left in the ocean? An extinction is just a chance to make killer profit right up to the end and then exit the industry and invest somewhere else like antidepressant manufacturing companies that have to meet increased demand from people being sad the ocean is dead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

God damn this makes me seeth 😡

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ah but the capitalist has to sacrifice the short term and play the long game of not over harvesting. And nothing matters more to a capitalist than short term profit

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's not capitalism, that's human nature. If I don't quickly take it, someone else will. The Tragedy of the Commons happens no matter the economic system.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trajedy of the commons is not inveitable, it is how people behave in barbaric societies with ruthlessly little compassion for anyone suffering, it represents a failstate of deeply dysfunctional societies (like the US).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it represents a failstate of deeply dysfunctional societies (like the US).

Disagree. See all the people helping out hurricane victims right now. The only stories of failures I'm hearing from over there is government... Not the people. So not societies fault, but governments fault.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

meh, of course there are good people with good intentions, I am not doubting nor even talking about people's propensity to help in a disaster, rather it is the suffocation of daily life in the US that thoroughly demonstrates the pathology of cruelty in the US.

We hate homeless people, we dont give a shit about vets, we spit on people poorer than us and rationalize not feeling empathy for them precisely because they are poor.. there are plenty of nice people in the US but a lot of them are addicted to exclusionary and hateful ideologies that effectively nullify their kindness except when society signals to them "this is a crisis", which is ironic because the US has been drowning in crises my entire life, the suffering is just deemed invisible and not worthy of turning our empathy circuits on for.