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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago (6 children)

If Nintendo weren’t such pricks about their IP, they would be a perfect company

They also have some atrocious work culture. Managers screaming at people. Developers routinely overworked to burnout. Leads can be egomaniacal in their pursuit of a particular vision.

The IP attitude is deeply rooted in a company culture of strict control and authoritarian attitudes.

That said, they produce some incredible art and style. So it's hard to argue with the results.

Wish people would be more comfortable simply feeling inspired by Nintendo and doing their own things, rather than trying to harvest Nintendo IP and fight them for control. Would make everyone happier over the long term.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's more of a Japanese company thing than something specific to Nintendo.

Not that it makes it OK, but this is a country that looked at how workers are treated in America and decided the problem was not going hard enough.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wish people would be more comfortable simply feeling inspired by Nintendo and doing their own things

The PalWorld devs did that. Nintendo sued them anyway.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean that's literally exactly what PocketPair did with Palworld and look what's going on with that.

I honestly feel like Nintendo simply can't let people do what they do, better. They can't allow it for whatever bullshit company-wide egotistical reason.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I honestly feel like Nintendo simply can’t let people do what they do, better.

Palworld was very explicitly cribbing from Nintendo IP. Down to the lead developers caught on record demanding that certain existing Pokemon be used as models for their content.

Also, the game was a bit of a flash in the pan. Idk if I'd conclude they "did it better" so much as they capitalized on a couple of popular trends to catch a surge of early adoption. Pokemon's been chugging along since 1996. Lets see if Palworld can survive a full three years, nevermind the next 30.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

How were they stealing from Nintendo? And even if there is a record of some Palworld devs saying they want to use Pokemon in the game 1:1, that's not what ended up happening at all. The only ones who actually think PocketPair used 1:1 Pokemon designs are actually blind Nintendo fanboys.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Arguing with the results is the reason we had WW2. Slaves built pyramids, but I wouldn't like going bavk to that way of work.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just out of curiosity, do you have a source for your claims that Nintendo has a bad work environment?

I'd love to learn more about it and verify this claim.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They seem to have really high employee retention:

Nintendo's employee retention rate is 98.9%, surpassing the national average of 70% thanks to factors like brand strength and a strong employee welfare program.

That said, it's a Japanese company, and Japanese work culture is very different from western work culture (read: a lot more stressful), but they seem to be doing reasonably well vs their peers.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was trying to look more into game dev crunch at Nintendo and the most recent articles I could find were about Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask (all for the Nintendo 64) and Metroid Prime (for the GameCube). From what I can tell all of their recent games have been delayed instead of forcing crunch.

That being said the difference in work culture means they probably still have longer hours but they aren't giving their developers actual PTSD like EA and Activision. It is really sad that the bar for AAA game devs is not having devs hospitalized from overworking. Hopefully more game dev and software dev companies can meaningfully unionize to combat that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I seen a video yesterday about how people in Japan hire people to quit their jobs. The girl said she spent a lot of time being grilled and felt like she owed the boss an apology.

Not Nintendo, still, I found it interesting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Oh, I'm sure sure their culture is terrible, but that's also about what I expect from any game developer in 2024. At least they're not like Microsoft, buying up small studios, working them to death, and then shutting them down for short-term profit. But you're absolutely right, that is a shitty thing about their company that I completely glossed over.

Also, to he fair, Palword tried to do something cool inspired by Pokémon, and The Pokémon Company and Nintendo are suing them on what seems like a bullshit patent-troll claim. I actually think some of their character designs do seem like blatant rip-offs, but the idea that those games are too mechanically similar is nonsense.