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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

i've been reluctant to read up on chomsky's works due to his response about visiting epstein's child fuck island (tldr: he said it's none of your business).

it diminishes his legacy and makes me wonder if his work is truly inspired or just high quality rantings of a smart man.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's definitely fucked up. That said, the book was a collaboration with another economist, Edward Herman. So it isnt entirely his work. It is still generally used as a text in economics and sociology programs across the world.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

i'm aware of it and it's on my list; just lower in priority due to the epstein update.

[–] jwiggler 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Shit. That's very disappointing. This is my first time hearing about it. Guess I'm glad I listened to Understanding Power through alternative means

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

never meet your heros, i guess

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The Epstein update absolutely made me think less of him as a person, no exceptions should be made for that kind of shit. That said, his work on foreign policy like Manufacturing Consent, On Palestine, and Consequences of Capitalism are all extremely detailed and well done.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Gotta separate the art from the artist. And if you don't want to give that person money because they're terrible, pirate their stuff.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Shout out to Library Genesis and Used Book Copies. Sometimes the audiobook are free on an Audible subscription, but I'm not sure how the money flows for that one

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

on an Audible subscription, but I'm not sure how the money flows for that one

Straight into the pockets of Jeff Bezos. Audible has been owned by Amazon since 2008

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I understand when that just isn't possible, however. I'll never be able to enjoy The Cosby Show again, for example.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

i don't think anyone doubts that it's well done.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't see why his behaviour should have any correlation with the technical merits of his book. With that said, I haven't actually read it yet (it's on my list)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

only in that he benefits from it; i think.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

That's dumb. If we find out Einstein was a kid diddler, I'm not gonna start questioning the merits of General Relativity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

about visiting epstein’s child fuck island

When did Chomsky visit Epstein's island?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i didn't keep track; try google

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

All I can find is some meetings where Chomsky had Epstein moving some money around. Nothing about him ever visiting Epstein's island.

Dodgy enough, but it doesn't seem Chomsky was ever one of Epstein's "guests."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

it's odd that i can google it either; the closest i could find was an accusation that epstein took him on a flight: https://www.businessinsider.nl/renowned-academic-noam-chomsky-told-the-wall-street-journal-that-his-meetings-with-jeffrey-epstein-are-none-of-your-business/

it smells like the efforts of a pr firm silently scrubbing news articles as they do for their clients.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

it smells like the efforts of a pr firm silently scrubbing news articles as they do for their clients.

No, it just sounds like Chomsky never actually visited that island. It's not going to be scrubbed because there are lots of right-wing "journalists" and rags that would absolutely love being able to prove that Chomsky did.