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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What if I just avoid people who look like they're dying?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not illegal, good samaritan laws protect you either way. However, there is a “duty to rescue” if:

1: You created the hazard that lead the person into danger, you must provide rescue.

2: A special relationship exists. Spouses must rescue each other, parents must rescue children, employers must rescue employees, property owners to invitees but not trespassers.

3: In some jurisdictions you have a duty to notify, which is usually calling the police, but you do not have to take any measures to help them beyond that. Only 10 states require this and is never actually enforced.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

So if your spouse is drowning and you're not a good swimmer you have to go die with them or you get in trouble? Obviously if there is a flotation device you'd use that but what if there isn't like in a river or something?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I realize that other comments have already explained the law better than I could. I still wanted to say that fortunately, jumping in to drown alongside them doesn't legally count as "helping," so there is no expectations for anyone to do so.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was hinting at the fact that drowning people will drown you to live themselves lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Oh yes, I was cheekily agreeing with that. It's always good to spread the information that the end result of a person who isn't specifically trained in rescue swimming attempting to swim out and rescue a drowning person is almost always just the two drowning together, even if the would-be rescuer is an otherwise strong swimmer.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Note: I am not a lawyer.

You're legally required to help, not risk your own life while doing so. If somebody is drowning you need to call the emergency services and if there is a rescue buoy close by you can throw that as well and try to pull them to shore that way.

I am not a lawyer, but I think in the majority of cases you should be covered by calling the emergency services.

As a side note: unless you're a lifeguard or have had proper training, jumping in to save somebody drowning is dangerous. A person drowning will try to hold on to anything to stay afloat and will likely try to push you under trying to stay above water.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah the holding other people down for one breath of air is what I am talking about, I was being a tad silly with my question but I appreciate your answer

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

You have to take “reasonable, actionable steps to rescue another in a hazardous or dangerous situation.” This may mean just calling the police, or in a case like drowning, throwing a life preserver and flaging down a lifeguard.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I'd assume the law has words along the lines of "as much as reasonably possible", if there's nothing you can do besides watch, well, that's all you can do.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If employers must rescue employees, shouldn't Amazon be in more trouble when they just leave corpses hanging around for days on end?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yes, should be