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An Austrian surgeon allegedly let his teenage daughter drill a hole in a patient's skull.

Following a forestry accident in January, a 33-year-old man was flown by air ambulance to Graz University Hospital, Styria, southeastern Austria, with serious head injuries, according to Kronen Zeitung, an Austrian newspaper.

He needed emergency surgery, but the doctor allegedly let his 13-year-old daughter take part in operating on him.

The newspaper reported that she even drilled a hole in the patient's skull.

While the operation was said to have gone off without issue, the patient is still unable to work and investigations by the Graz public prosecutor's officer against the entire surgical team are continuing.

It wasn't until April that an anonymous complaint was logged to the public prosecutor's office about the allegations, the newspaper reported.

The alleged victim initially learned about the case in the media before later being told by authorities he was a witness in an investigation.

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[–] [email protected] 141 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Jfc, having the girl in the room at all is a liability, let alone letting her touch the patient.

I hope this guy's malpractice lawyer has good heart meds.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Damn bro, women can be surgeons too. It's not 1890 anymore.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Women can indeed. Not so sure about 13 year old girls.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

In all fairness, I think it was a joke.

[–] Nythos 13 points 3 weeks ago

We would want to hope so

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So many people not getting that lol

[–] Galapagon 10 points 3 weeks ago

Sarcasm doesn't translate well amongst strangers via text, it's why we've got shortcuts like "/s" everyone should use

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Didn't you watch Doogie Howser?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

No one said any different. Read again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

13 year old girls aren't qualified brain surgeons any more than 13 year old boys

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Congratulations, that's the joke.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

In the US (the most sue happy place on earth) the guy probably wouldn't get a payout.

At least from reading the article, it infers the surgery and everything done went off without any issues. In the US, if you want to sue and win, you have to show that damages were done to you.

So while it was wildly inappropriate to have a 13 year old there or touching a patient at all, the patient would need to show that it caused damages.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm no lawyer but I think drilling into someone's head without permission might still count as assault.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But the surgery wasn't assault.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Do you think the patient gave informed consent, where the information included the fact that the surgical team would include untrained people?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, but there was still no damages. I don't know about Austria, but in the US it has to be shown that damages were suffered.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Without informed consent a surgery is assault though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Emergency surgery or transport to a hospital from a patient such as this falls under implied consent. The patient got in a near fatal accident. He didn't schedule a knee surgery or something.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Its a good thing you're not a lawyer.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Brb, gonna drill into this dudes skull

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

According to a different source shared by @giriinthejungle, the attorney who has taken the case is suing the entire operating unit and expects whoever instructed the girl to drill the hole to be liable for assault. That is also the estimation of the chief regional patient attorney, provided the incident happened as reported by the media.

The neurosurgeon as well as one other doctor have already been let go by the hospital.
Police have not yet charged anyone, their investigation is still ongoing as of the time of the article (2024-08-26).