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Lemmy devs are considering making all votes public - have your say (github.com)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Probably better to post in the github issue rather than replying here.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4967

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

ActivityPub can't evolve? Is there some insurmountable technical blocker?

I suspected this would be an issue and have avoided voting on controversial posts. But if everyone did as I do, there would be no open discussions about pressing topics.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

It is possible that ActivityPub could add this feature. But it's not certain you'd even want that. Private votes would mean private for admins and mods too, so no more analyzing votes to look for down vote bots or manipulation or down vote brigading and all that stuff. Votes could lose all meaning. Admins and mods are unlikely to say goodbye to those moderation tools.

Even if it could be added, it's probably years away.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Fair points. I'm warming up to the idea of making votes public so that people don't have a false sense of privacy. I wish votes were actually private, but maybe it's not a big deal if your account can't be easily traced back to you in real life.

[–] Socsa 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Pseudonymous voting doesn't mean a unique ID for every vote. It just means the user string itself is tokenized. You can still ban participation for that token without revealing the actual user. Literally the only thing this stops is easily seeing users who use the same name across several instances.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If the token is the same for the user across different posts, it would be easy to figure out who is actually behind the token by correlating voting patterns.

[–] Socsa 2 points 4 months ago

It would at least provide a means for obfuscating identity for users who care to make an effort. All you'd have to do is not vote when you comment and vice versa.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Evolving ActivityPub is not easy, any additions to the protocol take a lot of time and discussions between the various implementers.