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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The fact is, the proposed agreement in this hypothetical is a private contract which, for the most part, is fine and acceptable under common law pretty much everywhere.

"Pretty much everywhere"?

Dude do you even know what "common law" means? There's basically one in Europe, the UK.

Secondly, you can't make contracts to void laws/avoid regulations set by laws. You can't make a private contract that someone agrees to work for you for less than the federal mandated minimum wage.

You can't make a contract saying you're selling someone to be a slave, as slavery is illegal in the US (unless you're put in prison, US industry strongly relies on prison slave labour).

You can't make a contract saying you allow someone to murder you. That person would still be trialed as a murderer.

IMO, legally, I don't care. If someone wants to put themselves into this situation, then fine. It doesn't really affect me.

I think it does, however indirectly. When the rich start getting more relaxed about buying people and treating them more as product than people.... it will affect us all.

You could get people to do absolutely inhumane shit if you took 10 million to a very poor country and just started egging people on. People would literally kill for just hundreds of dollars. With 10 million you could make some sort of mad max murderdome type of setup. Just have "private contracts" with everyone, and it's okay, right? No need to consider the morality in the slightest.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

do you even know what "common law" means?

Yes. But apparently you don't.

Yes, the UK uses common law. Also, so do many current or former "Commonwealth", including, but not limited to, the USA.

Common law is why overturning Roe v. Wade made abortion bans possible. Roe v. Wade was the common law precedent that allowed for women to have the right to an abortion.

And no, contacts cannot overrule the law, whether from a law passed by the governing body, or by common law. This is why i essentially said, if you don't like it/agree with it, change the laws.

Make it illegal. Change the law to make it illegal.

Then, regardless of the contract, it is a crime.

As for the rich and any affect this might have on me.... The rich do this shit, not to dehumanize us "Poor's", but because they've already dehumanized us. I don't think this is a cause, this is an effect.

But I'll give you an upvote for sharing your opinion. I'll fight anyone who tries to take your opinion away from you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Oh you went from "pretty much everywhere" to "well, uh, many commonwealth countries".

You sure you didn't have to go check what it meant, and then you were shocked at how many of what we'd consider "developed countries" actually do not use common law?

In the EU, only Ireland still has common law.

All others use civil law. And I'm sure you didn't know that. :)

And precedent is present in civil law systems as well.