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[–] [email protected] 78 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Easy there OP, do you think food is some kind of "human right" or something? Before you know it, people will be saying housing is too.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 3 months ago (2 children)

In 2021, the United Nations General Assembly passed a resolution that everyone has a right to food and the UN should work to eliminate world hunger. It passed 186 for and 2 against. The two countries that disagreed were the United States and Isreal.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This fact makes me viscerally angry

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

...That there are people who make the decisions to let millions starve, yet we as a society happily throw people in jail or the chair for much less. If some wild gunman were shooting up the neighborhood, the way to stop them is simple. But if some wild suit lets millions starve artificially, "grr I'm so angwy!"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not to defend them, but that only makes them less hypocritical than others. Talk (and UN resolutions) are cheap, and most countries don't guarantee food or shelter in practice. Finland is the only one that comes to mind as actually achieving this.

Edit: perhaps the downvoters would like to prove me wrong by providing their own examples?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

There is a very logical progression of basic human needs. Without oxygen, a human will die in less than an hour. We need clean breathable air. Without water, a human a will die in less than a month. We need clean drinkable water. Without food a human will die in less than a year. Shelter is trickier because people can die of exposure and hypothermia in a matter of hours, but may be able to survive without it.

  • Air for profit
  • Water for profit <- This exists
  • Food for profit <- We are here
  • Shelter for profit
[–] rambling_lunatic 9 points 3 months ago

Minor correction: You're technically right, but you will die in less than a week without water and less than a month without food.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

There is an issue with that approach.

When they say free speech is a right, life is a right, freedom of conscience is a right and so on, they mean that others can't take away from you what's already yours. Our world, eh, is still that bad that this requires clarification and most people disagree with some or all of these.

I'd say in the situation where there are no white spots on the map, and growing food requires land and other such resources, and those have already been shared, - yes, these are rights. But a different kind by different logic.

A bit like the first part is reactive, while the second part is active. I'm bad with words.