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I think thread deletion is problematic and needs some consideration and changes (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17779430

A large percentage of threads I've created or participated in have been deleted. Worse is that when visiting the URL everything is completely gone.

This is much more drastic when compared with Reddit thread deletions, where the thread is there and so is the discussion. And the creator of the thread has access to their content.

The Lemmy method discourages people from participating in threads and creating high-quality content, much more so than the Reddit method.

A bunch of lively and useful discussions on Lemmy have completely disappeared. And it makes it seem like a waste of time to even contribute content here.

EDIT: I see that the "fediverse" link for posts has been removed. I posted this to lemmy.ml from a lemmy.world account and there's no way for me to get the lemmy.ml link now. And when I crosspost it it shows a lemmy.world link instead of the lemmy.ml one. I think this should be changed [back].

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A quick look in the modlog shows that less than a year ago moderators deleted a post you wrote called

Reddit is dangerous. The admins are out of control. Humanity needs a viable alternative. – Blog covering the Reddit admins retaliating against me

(The emphasis is mine)

Looks like you have a history of writing inflammatory posts, feeling persecuted about them being removed, and then going off on rants about it.

Some people may take a dump in public spaces, but don't call for changes to civic statutes so that their shit can be preserved for perpetuity. Please follow that example.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's always the people who don't want to admit their opinions aren't just rejected by a platform, but by the society as a whole. There's a reason they feel rejected, it's because they are. We reject hateful inflammatory things at a societal level, and they feel "persecuted" when they're called out for their bad beliefs.

We don't want them here, we don't want them there. If the problem is following you site to site, the problem isn't the sites, it's your beliefs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Weird that applies to some people and not others....I know plenty of people who's opinions were rejected by society, and I'm told every day that I must accept their opinions...

I've heard this same argument used against LGBT individuals, Palestinians, Jews, etc...

So what makes this guy less deserving? Because he has a contrary opinion to you? The things being deleted are not Nazi propaganda. They aren't even hateful. They're just discussions that people disagree with...and because they're disagreed with, they get removed. Mods should not be removing things due to editorial opinion. If people don't like it, that's what the downvote button is for.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's exceedingly bizarre how many people on Lemmy rush to defend Reddit and attack other Lemmy users for anything possible.

This thread had absolutely nothing to do with that, yet you somehow dug through months of mod logs to find the one thread that would allow to you attack me.

"You have a history of being inflammatory towards Reddit on Lemmy! This is not acceptable behavior on Lemmy!"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"My posts keep getting deleted!"

— user looks into public info to find out why your posts might be being deleted —

"Shut up, r×ddit defender!!!"

If you really want to know, I've seen a lot of people just delete their old posts for privacy reasons. Trying to keep that internet footprint out of sight.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

“My posts keep getting deleted!”

— user looks into public info to find out why your posts might be being deleted —

Nice try, but that's deceptive. This thread was not about my personal posts. I even gave an example of a recent thread (that I did not make) with hundreds of comments. You're further proving my point.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

My guy: it's literally the first line of your linked post.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I love your flare

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Thanks! I miss the feel of old image boards and niche forums.

In this case, I think highlighting the absolute goofiness of this entire thread fits well into the theme.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago

That's a lot of effort you're putting into something that can easily disappear at any point.

That is the point of this thread. You've chosen to deceptively magnify one part of it to twist things for your own purpose, which also seems to be a primary purpose of a lot of people on Lemmy -- antagonizing other Lemmy users.

[–] best_username_ever 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I even gave an example

You haven’t given an example. Where are your sources?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How are you supposed to link to a source when it's completely deleted?

You can see it in my profile though:

@MaximilianKohler to Ask Lemmy Ex Redditors of Lemmy what made you come on over? What happened at Reddit that you made the switch? • 5 days ago

This is the link and it looks like it's been restored https://lemmy.world/post/17593614

I looked in the mod log https://lemmy.world/modlog/3106 and it says:

4 hours ago mod Restored Post Ex Redditors of Lemmy what made you come on over? What happened at Reddit that you made the switch? reason: restoring post as it was deleted as a result of the user getting instance banned from lemmy.ml

There is no log of why/when it was removed.

I looked up another one from https://lemmy.world/c/nostupidquestions titled "Where's all the intelligent discussion at?", which was removed for rule 7. I don't agree with the removal reason, but none of this is relevant to the point of the OP. You guys are sidetracking.