this post was submitted on 20 Jul 2024
277 points (93.1% liked)
Showerthoughts
32169 readers
727 users here now
A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.
Here are some examples to inspire your own showerthoughts:
- Both “200” and “160” are 2 minutes in microwave math
- When you’re a kid, you don’t realize you’re also watching your mom and dad grow up.
- More dreams have been destroyed by alarm clocks than anything else
Rules
- All posts must be showerthoughts
- The entire showerthought must be in the title
- No politics
- If your topic is in a grey area, please phrase it to emphasize the fascinating aspects, not the dramatic aspects. You can do this by avoiding overly politicized terms such as "capitalism" and "communism". If you must make comparisons, you can say something is different without saying something is better/worse.
- A good place for politics is c/politicaldiscussion
- Posts must be original/unique
- Adhere to Lemmy's Code of Conduct and the TOS
If you made it this far, showerthoughts is accepting new mods. This community is generally tame so its not a lot of work, but having a few more mods would help reports get addressed a little sooner.
Whats it like to be a mod? Reports just show up as messages in your Lemmy inbox, and if a different mod has already addressed the report, the message goes away and you never worry about it.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
And keep in mind, the falcon sensor exists for Linux. All those big companies largely use it.
Essentially we just got lucky that their buggy patch only affected the windows version of the sensor in a showstopping way. Could have been all major OS.
I don't think the Linux culture is very similar to the windows culture. At least for me personally, I wouldn't use crowdstrike and let them install whatever they want into my environment.
Maybe it's just me.
It's not your machine, your choice of distro, or your choice of specific packages to use or not use. It's a work tool you get handed as part of a job. So whether CrowdStrike runs on it or not is not your decision and you aren't allowed (and usually not capable) to change that.
That's an entirely different situation from one where you get a PC to do with as you please and set up yourself, or a private machine.
Plus we're mostly talking endpoint devices for non-technical users with many of these difficult-to-fix devices as techs have to drive out to them. The users expect a tool, and they get a tool. A Linux would be customized and utterly locked down, and part of that would be the endpoint protection software.
We tried to fight against having to install Crowstrike on our Linux servers but got overruled by upper management without discussion. I assume we are not the only ones with that experience in the world due to the need to check a checkbox for some flimsy audit.
I bet you could bring it up with them now…
You're actually confirming their point about culture though. The fact that you couldn't stop them doesn't mean that it also happened to everybody else: some management may have listened. Linux users abhor adding weird shit to their OS, Windows users do it all the time.
Essentially no one has crowdstrike on their personal machines. Not Windows users, Mac users, or Linux users. So it's corporate/large organization culture that matters. And they absolutely use it.
Are you an admin in a corporate data center? If not, you're not in the target audience for that product.
Yup. And I think that says more about the corporate culture than the company that caters to them.
Welcome to the world of big retailers! They would rather run Linux with crowdstrike than make their own system.
This mastodon user claims otherwise:
https://nondeterministic.computer/@mjg59/112816011370924959
That's only true if you run falcon-sensor in ebpf and not kmod mode.
Yep I know
The issuw didn't affect Linux and macOS systems with Crowdstrike Falcon installed, though, only Windows systems.
On Windows, booting into Safe Mode and removing
C:\Windows\System32\Drivers het bestand C-00000291*.systemporarily solves the BSOD issue, as well.The point is that it could have. Or maybe some unknown 0-day gets used by someone out to cause chaos instead of collect random.
That's true
On one hand I hope people are smart enough to run updates to critical systems on a test environment, first. On the other hand I've learned that that is not at all the case yesterday.
Many security products have no test option. One I’m using has a best practice of a 15 minute delay between test and prod and no automation to suspend besides relying on the vendor to pull the update it within 15 mins if it were to go full crowdstrike.
The problem her was that this wasn't a traditional update. It was delivered automatically as a "content" update (like how old av would have definition update). We were given no room to test.