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[Dormant] Electric Vehicles

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The US EV market is only stalling because the lobbyist are purposefully crippling development, the manufacturers are circlejerking each other, and every foreign brand either has no interest in selling in the US, or is banned from doing so

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You're probably cheering on the outsourcing of techworkers too, right? Who cares about the safety of the people building the things we want to buy cheaply, right?

Protectionism can go too far and often does, but it isn't unnecessary for healthy societies. Free, unregulated trade isn't always the right answer.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Unlike all the safety violations, stagnant wages, and corners cut by companies in this country?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Correct, unlike that.

Worse than that, actually.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Protectionism is almost always because domestic automakers get complacent in their corner of the world and don't want to innovate to compete. See how Harley Davidson benefitted from Reagan's policies in limiting the imports of foreign bikes to the US. Ever since then almost all their bikes have looked like they've been stuck in the 1950s yet cost like how inflation would be like 20 years from now. Using underpaid American workers as an excuse to bring on these tariffs and bans just doesn't convince me if we haven't been innovating to improve technology or lower costs at the same time.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago

People want communities. They want healthy communities. Protectionism can facilitate healthy communities.

Innovation at all costs is not what society in general wants. This is abundantly clear throughout history and modern society.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ehhhhh, a lot of it is “highway safety standards”

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Standards that trucks are exempt from and don't measure up to European standards?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

A big portion of the market in the US is from foreign brands. The only domestic companies are Tesla, Rivian, GM, and Ford. The rest is Hyundai, Kia, VW, BMW, Toyota, etc. China isn't banned from selling here but like in Europe, has a tariff because they're trying to manipulate the market with unsustainable subsidies for their own national brands at the exclusion of everyone else.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago

Development isn't being crippled. No one wants to develope because China makes them so much cheaper.