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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Except if you're talking about Turkish, TDK dictates what words are real, how they're written, what they mean and other grammar and writing rules.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Several languages have this. Spanish has the Real Academia Española (RAE) and French has something similar.

But they're not generally in much of a different position than a dictionary is. If the people start using the language in new ways they have little recourse other than to accept it and amend their rules. If they refuse they'll look antiquated and people start to question their influence.

They certainly do have influence of course, but the ultimate authority is the people who speak the language in the end.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

People always think the académie française is antiquated because it doesn't like new anglicisms (old ones are fine though) and sometimes invents words. But in general language standardisation will always be seen as antiquated because it needs to lag behind at least a decade, otherwise things get standardised that are just a fad or where no general consensus has been found.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Do they monitor your private messages and fine you for typos or do they just codify the language which is taught in schools and used by the authorities? If it's anything like German language regulation then it's the latter and the way people actually talk and write slowly is adapted by the language regulations.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Literal grammar police? What are the consequences for breaking word laws?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Someone links to the TDK website to prove you wrong :p

It's most relevant to most people in university entrance exams where they ask you edge cases sometimes, but otherwise just annoying that it exists

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Die Schläge werden so lange fortgesetzt, bis sich die Moral verbessert.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I think the French have something similar, but that's the state imposing hard lines on fluid cultural stuff