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Hello, Protestant German here. I’m hearing a lot about the infamous Quran burnings in Sweden, and find it very strange. To me it’s fighting fire with fire, and as Muslims are very religious I can imagine it hurts them a lot.

Can someone help me understand how this makes sense?

Maybe I don’t have the full picture. Thank you!


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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yalori at 2023-07-20 10:43:13+00:00 ID: jspn79h


There's nothing much to it, it's a constitutionally protected right to do be able to do what you want with your property

When you hear announcements of a quran burning, it's not that the government permits this. In fact many politicians have expressed their distate towards the burning, but they're not actually in any position to allow or disallow it

What the demonstrators are doing is asking permittance from the police to be present, that's all. If the police say no, they can still hold their demonstration, there just won't be any authority present to de-escalate and protect people

The police might deny a request depending on what the basis for doing it is, though, or later prosecute the person if their intention was not legal (like incitement towards minority group)

The recent Torah burning that was cancelled was a PR stunt in attempts to show a hypocricy in the swedish government being biased in how they treat minority groups, but it kind of backfired when he actually got permitted by the police. He then went on arab media and spun the situation how the government did in fact not let him burn it because it wasn't stated that he was allowed to burn it (because that's not their concern and not what you're actually asking for since it's already legal), only that he was allowed to hold the demonstration

Make of the situation what you will

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ShitPikkle at 2023-07-20 13:09:10+00:00 ID: jsq3743


it's not that the government permits this.

Yes it is, and they do. They have to permit it according to law.

If the police say no, they can still hold their demonstration, there just won't be any authority present to de-escalate and protect people

You can, but you would also be arrested:

Den som uppsåtligen eller av oaktsamhet anordnar en demonstration utan tillstånd kan dömas till böter eller fängelse i högst sex månader.

https://www.riksdagen.se/sv/dokument-och-lagar/dokument/svar-pa-skriftlig-fraga/demonstrationer-utan-polistillstand\_gq121074/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Draghjalp at 2023-07-20 13:29:29+00:00 ID: jsq5wk2


You will most definitely not be (lawfully) arrested. Your source is not a legal document, and the quote does not cite any actual law. The quote is also two decades old, Sweden have had numerous changes in both regular and constitutional law during that time.

The government does not permit demonstrations, as they can be carried out without permits in accordance with the constitution. As long as specific conditions aren't fulfilled, it is prohibited to dissolve them.