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Nowadays Windows is filled with adware and is fairly slow, but it wasn't always like this. Was there a particular time where a change occurred?

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I’m going to say Win8 & 8.1.

Say what you will about the UI, they did great work on the underlying kernel, file system and APIs. If they’d continued to refine it, it’d be damn near perfect.

They really started to lose the plot with 10; it kept a lot of what made 8 good (and steals a lot of goodwill from 8) but you can see the adware and telemetry start to creep in.

The next best I’d have to give to Vista, which also did some much needed revitalization, only to see 7 get the glory because Microsoft flubbed the hardware requirements and vendors were sloppy with drivers.

My favourite is NT3.5: full microkernel, no GDI in kernel space, no printer drivers in the kernel, less registry issues. We’d have skipped a lot of pain from the 90s and 2000s had Microsoft not went backwards with 9x and NT4.

[–] andrew_bidlaw 8 points 4 months ago

vendors were sloppy with drivers

Didn't they arbitrary remade the way drivers are packed and installed so old hardware would be rendered obsolete? I feel like many producers owe MS money for that one trick. Especially since office peripherals come to chipped tanks and subscription services after that, while old and reliable tech became unusable unless you mess with drivers for a while.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Windows 7 and 8.1 were good, 8 was a disaster.

I don't mind 10 really, after you disable all the "recommendations". 11 is terrible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I kept using 7 until the end and only switched to 10 because I had no alternative. But I've been very happy with LTSC.