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Do you not see the difference between striking targets that are inside your territory vs targets outside of your territory?
Once you decide to strike targets in russian territory, you expose yourself to much more scrutiny because you have to justify what makes something a valid target. Inside ukraine its easy, because almost any russian is a valid military target.
When the other territory is actively invading mine, no I don’t see how territory makes another otherwise valid target not valid.
100% of Russians invading Ukraine came from Russia.
I don't think you're honestly thinking this through.
If Ukraine starts bombing russian children's hospitals, that's clearly an invalid target. What Ukraine is bombing will be scrutinized.
There are, however, zero russian children's hospitals inside Ukraine, so as long as Ukraine is bombing russian targets and not their own, their targets are not open to the same level of scrutiny.
What?
That’s the entire point. They haven’t been allowed to hit valid Russian targets inside Russia. That’s what they’ve been given permission to do.
You’re the one brining children hospitals into this.
Yes. I am bringing children's hospitals in to this as an example for why additional scrutiny is required when attacking targets inside Russia.
I'm not sure you read my comment fully.
I’m not sure you understood mine.
When you invade another country, expect that country to attack you in your territory too.
I said I don’t see why I valid target would be made invalid just because it’s inside Russia.
Then you went on about children’s hospitals, which you know, are not valid targets.
Sorry if I misunderstood. I'll reply on the basis of your latest comment.
Is anybody saying a target would be made invalid just because it's in Russia? My point was all targets inside Russia are open to increased scrutiny because of targeting inside Russia.
The children's hospital example is because Russia likely does not have children's hospitals (or other non-military assets) inside Ukraine, and therefore Russian targets inside Ukraine are almost certainly going to be valid. On the other hand, when some high up revenge obsessed Ukrainian military personnel decide they want to target Russian children's hospitals, it's useful for their targets to have increased scrutiny to prevent an additional civilian massacre.
Just to clarify, the children's hospital example is being used to convey an obviously non military target which additional scrutiny can prevent from being attacked.
I'm going to stop replying to this thread now as I'm not sure I can make my point much clearer. I might re-read through the context though just in case I misunderstood something somewhere. I do Lemmy on mobile so sometimes it's difficult to track a conversation.
Re-reading your comment I see where I misread yours and instead of scrutiny for some reason I heard not allowed. But funnily enough, people arguing that have absolutely replied to me saying that Ukraine doesn’t want to start a full out war with Russia.