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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (51 children)

The Death of the Author.

She didn't get blatantly bigoted until after the series.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 month ago (17 children)

Not blatantly, but there are signs of it even in the first book; and as the books go on, you can see almost in real time her political views shift from criticizing the system to defending it as she started becoming wealthy and benefiting from the system.

I highly recommend watching Shaun's 2 hour video on the subject, as it goes into great detail on the subject and makes for perfect podcast material.

Some highlights include:

  • Obesity as a moral failing - want to make a character seem bad? Just make them fat!
  • Masculine features as a negative trait for women (sound familiar?) - want to make a teenage girl bad (and ugly) but don't want to make her fat? Just talk over and over about her "mannish hands" and sharp jawline.
  • Token minority characters that are often stereotypes or border on racism - the black kid is named Shacklebolt, the Asian girl is named two single syllable last names (might as well have called her Ching Chong), the 12 year old Irish kid is obsessed with turning drinks into whiskey and blowing stuff up, etc.
  • The defense of the slavery of house elves using the exact same arguments that slave owners used before the Civil War in the US mentioned by somebody else, with a bonus criticism of Hermione as a girl with blue hair and pronouns for questioning and trying to change the system.
  • There are no good or bad actions, only good or bad people. It's okay for the right people to use the torture spell, because they're the "good guys."
  • And a resolution that basically resolves nothing. Harry doesn't kill Voldemort, he kills himself due to a magic technicality, and Harry goes on to become a magic cop to ensure the flawed system that the early books criticized doesn't change.
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (5 children)

the black kid is named Shacklebolt

I'm probably missing context but what's wrong with the name?

Asian girl is named two single syllable last names

But isn't that extremely common? I personally know like three people like that and I know a pretty limited number of people from East Asia.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Shacklebolt = Shackled and bolted down = Enslaved

Not a great name for basically the only black person in the books.

Cho Chang = Both are Chinese or Korean LAST names. 'Cho' isn't a first name in any Asian language, so she's mixing and matching languages and cultures. She also only describes her as 'Asian' in the books, furthering how little effort was put in.

It's like saying 'Lombardi Fernandez' is a European name. Ignorant on multiple accounts.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Shacklebolt = Shackled and bolted down = Enslaved

Oh okay, I didn't make that connection. I wonder if it was intentional, that'd be lol

Cho Chang = Both are Chinese or Korean LAST names. ‘Cho’ isn’t a first name in any Asian language, so she’s mixing and matching languages and cultures. She also only describes her as ‘Asian’ in the books, furthering how little effort was put in.

I don't know, does every character need that sort of specific cultural background associated with them? You give the example of "Lombardi Fernandez" and just describing that person as "European" or Latino or something liket that would seem totally fine to me. Actually the name being a mix could serve as a purposeful way of having their background be more vague not to tie it down in a specific country or even culture.

And with the name not being "correct", doesn't she use some wacky names for characters anyway? So it's not like name authenticity otherwise is respected iirc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sort of, but she gave most people realistic names, it's only with people further outside the central narrative that gets weird, and it goes further than just the name. I referred to my made-up character as 'European' and used common Spanish and Italian last names, which would be weird, but fine by itself. However, imagine if they were the ONLY white character in the entire book, and JK only wrote about how "Lombardi loved pasta and naps" as their main characteristics.

Cho Chang is a popular and smart girl who struggles with always listening to her parents, but suddenly becomes dumb around Harry because "she can't focus around him". She's basically just a ManicPixieDreamGirl for Harry to have emotions about.

So, it's not just about the name, it's how the character is treated overall, and the way she's treated is as a generic Asian romantic interest stereotype with a made-up name.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Ah, okay I get the issue now

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Shacklebolt = Shackled and bolted down = Enslaved

That's such a fucking stretch you should open a yoga studio

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