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Well personally, I don't want an openly fascist raving lunatic to be US president, but that's just me, of course.
That sounds more like Trump than Biden. The trouble is Trump is probably what we'll get if Biden doesn't suck it up and drop out of the race.
Of course I meant Trump. How can that not be blindingly obvious?
It's impossible to tell without knowing whether you're taking to a Trump cultist.
Poe’s Law
It was
It's just sort of a non sequitur if it's about Trump - this is an article about picking a candidate to maximize Dem chances of beating Trump, neither side of the argument on who that should be wants Trump.
I don't think we'll fare any better if Harris gets the nomination either. I don't understand why the party keeps backing the most unlikable candidates possible over and over and over.
Because they'll rather turn over their country to the fascists than nominate someone who might upset their sponsors.
I have wondered how it would be possible to change the ticket into anyone else but Harris at this late stage. There is no time to do a new set of primaries. Harris is at least the VP on the ticket and the person whose job it would be to step in for Biden anyway.
How could he just designate some random person and everyone who voted Biden just has to go with it?
If Biden drops out, it's an open convention. The party can put Harris or anyone else forward as their preferred candidate, but the delegates aren't pledged to them the way they currently are to Biden. Anything could happen at that point, really.
I understand how it’s procedurally possible to do. But why would everyone accept having the delegates at the convention just vote for some random person that the people didn’t get to vote on themselves? People around here talk about how the 2016 primary was so undemocratic because they had stuff like superdelegates, but at the end of the day the process was actually pretty democratic, unlike choosing someone totally unrelated after the primaries.
To me, Harris is the only one you could just put in place and say this is still the ticket you voted for. Anyone else, I don’t know how you pull it off.
The DNC nomination process is fairly democratic, but not entirely. Ultimately, the party delegates who are sent to the convention decide who the nominee is. By the time the convention happens this is usually a formality, but there have been open or brokered conventions before. You can look up and read very quickly how the process works, it's not that complicated.
The reason people were mad about 2016 is that the DNC has rules that allow party leaders to put a thumb on the scale (sometimes a heavy thumb or multiple digits) if they don't approve of how things are going. This is why Bernie wasn't butthurt about losing whereas his following was; he knew the rules going into it, that not only would he have to overcome the superdelegates, but also anything else the party luminaries had in their back pocket along the way.
All that being said, the delegates who go to the convention are determined by the state primaries and are all for Biden this election. This means that if Biden does drop out, they are likely going to tow whatever line the higher-ups in the party want, which will be Harris. In the unlikely event that they don't, there could be more of a contest, but they still have to reckon with the superdelegates.
I'm not saying people would accept it. But honestly, I'm not entirely convinced people will accept anything at this point.