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I'm seeing a lot of international messages getting this wrong, so this is how you refer to the Prime Minister of the UK.

First, we normally refer to the PM just by name, like anyone else. So, "Keir Starmer" or "Mr Starmer".

"Prime Minister" is not used as a title like "President" is. He's not "Prime Minister Starmer". He's just "the Prime Minister" or "the Prime Minister, Keir Starmer".

Unusually, this new PM is also a knight. Of course, this has its own rules.

If you want to use this title, it's not quite as simple as replacing "Mr" with "Sir'. The first name is more important than the surname here. He's not "Sir Starmer". He's "Sir Keir Starmer" or "Sir Keir".

Hope it helps!

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I figured this was going to be somebody wanting to talk about his politics or something like that but no it's just a pedantic Englishman pissed that people are using the wrong title

[–] [email protected] 79 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

to be fair, pedantry is one of our key exports

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sincerest apologies m'kind fellow!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Put a comma after "apologies".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Punctuation goes inside of quotes, "like this."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Only if it's part of the quote. In this case, because "apologies" wasn't followed by a full stop, it doesn't go within the quotation marks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

pedancy talk aside this is like the most inconsistent rule in all of writing hahhah

even the oxford comma is less debated than punctuation in quotes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I just select my precepts from the arguments on offer and try to rigidly stick to them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Your T is already capital!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And we love you for it! My current favorite YouTuber is doing a "Star Trek Reviewed by a pedant" https://youtube.com/@unlimited_lives?si=h3DEcI8wWpVj-MgK

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

haaa this is brill

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Why bother getting to know their politics? The UK has been going through Prime Ministers faster than McDonalds fry cooks.

/s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Fewer cabbages

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That always ends up happening. Whenever a government has being in power for too long they start to break into 90 different factions and spend their entire time fighting each other, and not getting anything else done.

Also a certain group of the Conservatives have started to play by the Republican Party playbook, while the rest of them are politely asking if maybe they could not be fascists? Of course appeasement never works so apparently the next best option is to have giant arguments about it and replace the PM every 10 minutes.

Fortunately Labour are another party, and regardless of what you think about them as a party, they are at least different and are less fractional currently, so perhaps now we can get something done.