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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Literally the first human-cpu interface?

I wish I had the confidence of a techbro who thinks any of the BCI tech in neuralink is new and isn’t just a set of techniques that have existed for decades and have a shitty track record

the only thing neuralink seems to add is wireless control, which doesn’t work, partially due to impossible bandwidth and compression requirements, but mostly because it’s a project driven by Musk’s whims

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

partially due to impossible bandwidth and compression requirements

It still amazes me they publicly posted a request for help with these compression req which are physically impossible to achieve. Nobody with a CS degree is anybody near the leadership of neuralink. In other words, you are downplaying how impossible the requirements were.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

you are downplaying how impossible the requirements were.

oh absolutely! but only out of a sense of shame for being in a career field where a medical device company posting that horseshit compression challenge didn’t immediately prompt a strong backlash and repercussions for neuralink’s ability to attract and retain talent, in lieu of a functioning regulator maybe possibly shutting them down before they can fucking mutilate someone else with this brainfart of an invention

I feel bad for anyone who gets that e-waste implanted into their head and ends up with an implant that absolutely cannot do the things it’s marketed to do, barely does ordinary 90s brain implant shit, stops working very quickly (to the apparent surprise of the people in charge) and will most likely cause injury and severe discomfort to the patients saddled with it

I wish my field had ethics. I’d sleep better if we did.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

okay but if they hadn't done that we wouldn't have gotten this work of art

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

holy fuck I read the comments

all the musksucking sub-linkedin reply guys chittering at each other about how this is clearly the kind of breakthrough musk was hoping for when he devised this genius-level challenge. you know, basic lossy audio compression applied by an asshole pretending to be an audio engineer (or maybe this fuckhead is the reason the FLACs I pay for are sometimes just converted from MP3s?)

e: I got to the post where he supposedly makes a point about ADC and container bit depths. this fucking idiot is almost certainly an audiophile cosplaying, and the only audio engineering he’s done is set his amp on a block of wood

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What is the original requirement? I've never seen this and I feel a mighty sneer that I'm missing. A Fear of Sneering Out if you will.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Some 100 times+ compression, very fast and also at very low power (because it was inside the brain), and lossless.

And not stated but because it was inside the brain, I assume possible memory usage also wasn't that high etc. Sorry have no direct link to the specs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

I assume possible memory usage also wasn’t that high

ye iirc we can remember like 7 things so that might be hard /s

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@Soyweiser @V0ldek

The multi-electrode systems at the lab I worked in 2009 used a fiber connection to the host PC and generated terabytes of data, for just 128 or 92 electrodes (I forget) at not-all-that-many samples per second.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Sorry what is the point here? Or do you just want to share a cool story about data transfer? (I'm not trying to be snarky, I feel like im missing something here).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@Soyweiser

Just an example of the data involved in a brain-computer interface.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

look, with the 200x compression,

[–] Varyk 0 points 5 months ago

The guy who it was implanted in says it works well.

And there are videos of the neuralink working.

But hey, if ypur butt hurts, your butt hurts.