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[–] [email protected] 63 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Anything Hitler said that wasn't horrible was also said by multiple other people. The only reason to defend Hitler with the phrasing the horse does is to try to make Hitler look like he might be reasonable as a way to suggest maybe his horrible stuff was also reasonable.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It's also worth doing to see HOW he got to power. He successfully convinced a large number of sensible people to support him. He also successfully rebooted Germany back to a superpower.

As the phrase goes, those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. Understanding how Hitler managed to look reasonable to do many is critical to stopping future Hitlers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

"Where will he go next? This phantom from another time, this resurrected ghost of a previous nightmare. Chicago? Los Angeles? Miami, Florida? Vincennes, Indiana? Syracuse, New York? Anyplace, everyplace, where there's hate, where there's prejudice, where there's bigotry. He's alive. He's alive so long as these evils exist. Remember that when he comes to your town. Remember it when you hear his voice speaking out through others. Remember it when you hear a name called, a minority attacked, any blind, unreasoning assault on a people or any human being. He's alive because, through these things, we keep him alive."

- Rod Serling, The Twilight Zone, He's Alive

[–] fibojoly 3 points 5 months ago

You could say he made Germany great again. For a while anyway.

[–] ryathal -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's a huge push to simplify a lot of history from that era. Probably because there's a lot of uncomfortable things that actually happened. It's way easier to say nazis bad and Hitler dumb, than confronting that nazi Germany was economically superior to most of Europe at the time. That a huge amount of nazi policies enjoyed popular support globally. That holocaust included, the nazis really weren't that bad compared to Japan/USSR during the same period.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Were with you up to that bit with holocaust. Do not lessen what germany did, even if by trying to point out similiary evil stuff was happening.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

The "Jewish relocation" was wrapped up in a lot of pretty lies to get the German people to swallow it. Thankfully, the people at the time realised the need to document exactly how fucking bad it actually was. Otherwise, we would have a lot of people arguing that it "wasn't actually that bad".

It's an uncomfortable truth how well they camouflaged what they were doing, and how easily the German people (and the rest of the world) accepted it.