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I keep seeing this instance is overrun with tankies so hey, lets do an informal survey like I've seen on hexbear

respond with YES or NO in the first line of your comment and i'll tally everything in a couple of days, lets say I'll try and collect everything on the sunday the 9th (10+gmt sorry)

not sure thisll work, be nice, have fun

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[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Idk. I'm really bad at history and such cause I never pay attention. I used to take everything I saw on the internet at face value, so I decided to slow down on current news. Doesn't help that I like programming and video games a lot, so I don't spend a lot of time thinking about world events.

I just like communities that are tolerant and won't let people bully the lgbt or the disabled. It feels less tiring.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Believe it or not, some people would call you a tankie for that.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I never got called a tankie, so idk about that.

Then again, I rarely participate in political discussions that I don't know about. I try to read as much as possible to get an idea, but I never go in dept, like read sources.

I'm going to go to uni soon. I'll try to spend more time into learning history properly.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Good!

Let me know if you want some basic Marxist recommendations.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I was thinking of diving head first into das kapital. I'm not sure if 3 courses of philosophy are enough. I was going to ask my philosophy teacher about it, but I'm a bit scared to ask haha.

I would be glad to get some recommendations though.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I def recommend against starting with das kapital, at least until the advanced / intermediate stages. Its a slog, and not really the best introduction.

Here's a Marxism study plan, with a good number of audiobooks / audiobook torrents for them.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ok. Thanks a lot for the audio books aswell!

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You can absolutely do that, but it may be extremely difficult.

I would personally recommend starting with The Principles of Communism and then following it up with How Marxism Works. Then, you can dive into Wage Labor and Capital and Value, Price, and Profit.

With the easy overviews of Marxism as a whole, and the Marxist critique of Capitalism out of the way, I would go to Socialism: Utopian and Scientific for philosophy, and Critique of the Gotha Programme for Marx's vision of what Socialism may look like. Read the Communist Manifesto now, where you have the background knowledge to fully understand the text and appreciate its fire.

Optionally, add Lenin here. Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism explains how Capitalism has grown since Marx, using ideas laid out by Marx but not fully observable until Lenin. I would say this is actually the most important work for understanding Modern Capitalism, but since it builds on Marx, it's important to read this one after Marx. The State and Revolution is Lenin's other major work, and it goes over the strategy used during the Russian Revolution. Important for historical context, even if you disagree with Lenin here.

All of this combined is, I believe, shorter than 1 full volume of Capital.

Hope that helps!

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thanks a lot for taking your time to send me all of that. It always shocks me how much all of you know so much about several texts and all.

I'll try my best to read through all of this.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Imma be honest chief, I'm just a nerd for Socialism and Communism. That's really it, haha.

Let me know if you have any questions!