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Floridasheriff on Friday fired a deputy who fatally shot a Black airman at his home while holding a handgun pointed to the ground.

Okaloosa County Sheriff Eric Aden fired Deputy Eddie Duran, who fatally shot Senior Airman Roger Fortson on May 3 after responding to a domestic violence call and being directed to Fortson’s apartment.

Body camera video shows that when the deputy arrived outside Fortson’s door, he stood silently for 20 seconds outside and listened, but no voices inside were heard on his body camera.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 2 months ago (3 children)

A criminal investigation by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement is ongoing.

Not going to hold my breath for any actual justice here.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The cop will get off and slither to the department 2 towns over.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As is tradition. How many times must this happen before we start holding cops accountable for their actions? How can you uphold the law while standing on top of it and pissing all over it?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm adamant that we should mandate a 4 year law enforcement degree and a certification, issued by an independent community police board.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

If a nurse causes a malpractice that is on their license for years and other states detect it. Cops nothing. We should have their full history accessible to the public.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

A thousand times yes. We require those degrees to do so many far less critical jobs. It’s unreal how completely opposite this is for LEOs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That is a Fund the Police position. More training doesn't fix a lack of consequences. You have to take money and/or freedom away from them for doing bad things, or you'll never see positive change.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I never said anything about giving more money to police departments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. You were talking about the creation of large bureaucratic entities that would work hand in hand with police departments. What happens when police departments want to recruit. Maybe they can offer cheap loans to people who go to those universities. Maybe when officers retire, they can go work for those independent organizations that you're talking about.

All of the above is expensive, all of it makes large law enforcement even more entrenched in society despite value or lack thereof, and none of it has anything to do with accountability or oversight. You're proposing a solution that doesn't even address the real problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I wasn't expecting you to revive this discussion, but I'll still talk about it. I was suggesting that the independent oversight board is funded by diverting police funds. For it to be independent, we'd have to prevent former cops and their families from being on the board. Since the independent board is responsible for issuing the police licenses, that would be pretty easy to track.

For the record, I'm not saying that this is the only solution either. To me, this is a large part of the overall solution for ending police violence. There are a lot of police reforms I want to see, but we have to start somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

But why would they hire him when the first department give him a glowing recommendation?

Oh, I see.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

It might in this particular case simply because we're talking about an active duty military man who got murdered.

On the other hand, he was black and this is Florida, so who knows?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Two right wing symbols involved: military and police. Anything can happen here.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Sure but a black man was shot in Florida so I'm not holding out any hope here especially in that racist ass state that let a guy get away with killing a black kid over some skittles.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@stoly @inclementimmigrant Yeah, but he was a _black_ airman, so sure, the deputy got fired, but I’m not holding my breath that he won’t just be hired by another force nearby and the whole thing swept away.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m certain he gets hired elsewhere if there are no charges.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Dude even with charges, he might just have to go to a different state at most. But Florida's pretty big he can probably just go to the other side of the state.