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Sorry about that ridiculous watermark.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The fact that two Rikers existed is all the proof I need to be full Luddite. Save your death machines for the next person, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And they treat the one on the planet like he's a copy when he'd logically be the original with the one on the Enterprise being the duplicate.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They are both copies. They explain that the guy operating the transporter was losing him, so he used a second beam to try to compensate. On beam made it through, the other bounced off the st uff in the atmosphere that was causing the problem and rematerialized him on the planet. I'm pretty sure this explanation was in the episode in order to establish that both Rikers are equally real.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Except that that explanation means Tom was made with the original Riker materials and Will was made from matter reserves on the ship using the original Riker as a template.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No, USS Enterprise NCC 1701-D. But I can see why that would be confusing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Both beams were pulling in genuine Will Riker. Presumably they are both a mix of the original material and additional material formed by the transporter. That or the transporter is violating the law of conservation of energy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think that makes both Rikers equally fake, not real.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Equally fake and equally real are the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Equally fake and equally real are equal?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Beg to differ.

The Queen gives birth to twin boys. It's a stormy night and the midwife isn't sure which is older. They are equally the 'real' king.

Two counterfeit dollar bills are equally fake.

[–] starman2112 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is a semantics argument. The way the person you're talking to means it, two things being equally fake also means that they're equally real, because they are both just as real as the other (that is, not).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

If one counterfeit dollar buys a soda, does it matter who's king?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

This one Trinitys

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

i always felt that it was wrong that they gave the riker that got out a promotion; but wouldn't do the same thing for the riker that didn't get out even though he was the one who paid the price for his heroism while the other riker simply got lucky and both did the same thing that earned that promotion.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Well shoot! I’d never thought about that and now I’m mad!

Give Tom Riker his promotion!