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Also USA killed this many civilians in Iraq per year, during the entire duration of the war.
Yes, and GWB was a horrible person for doing that. I thought we learned from these mistakes?
and what happened? oh yeah actual leftist rabble roused and protested the Iraq war, whereas centrist Dems were lockstep with Republicans to invade over lies.
Great example, it really shows how little Dems have cared about leftists for decades.
Aaaaand…how did that protest go for ya? Did it work? Did anything change?
No?
Imagine that.
Great example. It really shows how little the far left understands nuance and common sense.
I guess you are right. Maybe I should be in favor of war and genocide then because it's always working. Thank you kind stranger, I will stop protesting now.
So… knowing that some protests in the past have been pointless is the key to supporting genocide now?
You seem to like going WAY out of your way to maintain ignorance, don’t you? Instead of accepting that your point was dismissed, you opted to throw a hissy fit and cut off your own nose in a bad faith attempt to make another point.
Incredibly childish.
It was sarcasm
It was stupid.
Yeah I agree. Sarcasm is toxic and not a sane way to debate. Sorry about that. But are you okay dude? You seem angry, hope you're alright.
False concern is also stupid.
Do better.
History is filled with examples of the righteous being defeated by the wicked.
Christ, being such an example
As I recall…. Things didn’t work out well for Christ. Pretty sure the end score was:
Wicked: 1
Christ: 0
That was literally my point. And is the entire point of Christianity
So your point was to prove my point.
Well done.
Christianity actually changed some things in world history. Like more than a few.
So a temporary loss by the righteous can eventually lead to a permanent victory. Which was very clearly my point. And is the point of the Bible - and is also the point of the religious history of the West
So… your argument is to compare your incessant whining and selfish refusal to do what is necessarily to protect the lives and rights of others to….. checks notes
…..Christians?
Yeah. That tracks. You can have that argument. That definitely sums up both camps pretty well.
Riiiight. Well that’s new. I’ve never seen anyone “pretend to not understand written language” to get out a conversation before, but here we are moving new ground.
I suppose you’re not going to point out which part you’re having trouble understanding, are you?
Ahh… pretending to be the victim of abuse. Such a familiar tactic. However- this isn’t a personal attack unless you are saying that you are someone that incessantly whines and refuses to do what right to protect the lives of others.
I never once said a single thing about you personally.
And I see from your comment history that you do this a lot to others. You seem to play victim to others words, while simultaneously goading them into arguing with you.
I’m going to go ahead and block you from my feed so you can bait me into being banned.
Good luck with… whatever it’s called that you’re doing here.
Shhh! People haven't been terminally online about Israel/Palestine for the past several years juy to admit, in this moment, that their own country commits larger atrocities every day. What do you expect them to do, admit that their own country was founded on settler colonialism and that their continued participation amounts to what Zionism is: a belief that the settlements you live on are legitimate and should be protected?
This is such a weird gotcha, because I don't know a single person who denounces the Israel's genocidal behavior who isn't also denouncing America's genocidal behavior. Like, yeah, killing innocent people is bad; let's keep this bandwagon going and overthrow all genocidal governments, please!
America's killing of civlians during the Iraq war was absolutely a horrible atrocity, but it wasn't genocide. Words have meaning.
America's been around a lot longer than the beginning of the Iraq war. We nearly eradicated the Native Americans to gain their land, we've placed illegitimate governments in Honduras and Guatemala, nearly eradicating the Mayan population for the sake of our own economic exploitation of the area, and so on. And honestly, most people backed the Iraq war specifically because they hated middle eastern people, so I don't think calling it a genocide would be much of a stretch; if the area's population were small enough to easily suppress the way the Mayans were, we'd have probably just focused on that strategy again in order to secure the cheap oil we were after.
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I was just staying on topic.
My comment was in response to a comment about American colonialism and the genocide that came along with it, which is why I addressed it. Topics often change throughout the course of a conversation, and the same can happen in a comment thread.
Can count Vietnam, north Korean too.
Still not sure why you think they are related othet than people were killed.
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So just false equivalent to compare number of deaths to make a genocide not look like a genocide?
Sorry, are you saying the Iraq war was a genocide?
The US absolutely commited genocide against Native Americans. How people and their cultures are deatroyed matters.