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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

Serious posts, news, and discussion go in c/Socialism.

If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.

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0. Only post socialist memes

That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)

1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here

Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.

2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such,

as well as condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.

3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.

That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).

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The only dangerous minority is the rich.

5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.

We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

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6. Don't idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.

Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.

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(This is not a definitive list, the spirit of the other rules still counts! Eventual duplicates with other rules are for emphasis.)

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lol so people who you elected, just like the system we have now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not at all, Capitalism would be abolished.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So you're back to a committee telling people what they need to do and how much they get, just without the freedom to change jobs...got it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Where did I say you couldn't change jobs or decide what to do?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're committee did, or if they didn't then they're just gov bosses over everyone since they dictate what people are worth. So you're back at capitalism...just with a voted in committee telling people their worth, or we're talking about a committee that dictates what people are going to do. Which is it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You don't seem to understand basic concepts of democracy, Capitalism, or Socialism.

Workers democratically deciding policy and electing leaders is fundamentally different from Capitalism, where they have no say over production, nor what they are worth.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't, you all do. The majority will always overrule the minority and you will have leadership that represents some but not all. Someone is going to get screwed always in your little utopia.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Having democratically accountable managers and production based on use and not on profit is entirely different.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's even worse...if you don't like your boss you have no option of moving to a different job to get rid of them. The same people you all hate in this government are the same people who will now be bossing you around.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You can vote them out, lol.

You're deeply unserious.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How's that currently working for you? RvW was just repealed and anti-abortion laws in place in a bunch of states....

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yep, the US is not a democracy.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And you think a communist society is?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

ROFL The delusional naivety from you tankies is hilarious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

What makes me a tankie? Being a non-anarchist Socialist? Tankie must've lost all meaning, then.