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[–] [email protected] 186 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Scratching a stranger’s car is never okay.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But what if it ain't a car but a Cybertruck?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Scratching another unmet civilians vehicular mode of transport is never okay.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It is strange and striking that climate change activists have not committed any acts of terrorism. After all, terrorism is for the individual by far the modern world’s most effective form of political action, and climate change is an issue about which people feel just as strongly as about, say, animal rights. This is especially noticeable when you bear in mind the ease of things like blowing up petrol stations, or vandalising SUVs. In cities, SUVs are loathed by everyone except the people who drive them; and in a city the size of London, a few dozen people could in a short space of time make the ownership of these cars effectively impossible, just by running keys down the side of them, at a cost to the owner of several thousand pounds a time. Say fifty people vandalising four cars each every night for a month: six thousand trashed SUVs in a month and the Chelsea tractors would soon be disappearing from our streets. So why don’t these things happen?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Because the law drops the hammer on them BIG time.

Hell, activists use to spike old wood trees marked for clear cutting back in the day. This would cause the saw blades foresters would use to explode in their face,, in fact George Alexander, a millworker, was severely injured when a saw blade shattered after contact with a tree spike and cut his jaw in half.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

His name is Jason Alexander, he only played a character named George.

[–] xx3rawr 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

George Alexander would then form a band, drop two hits, then write for other artists away from the limelight.

Oh wait, that's Gregg.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I thought he conquered the eastern Mediterranean, Egypt, the Middle East, and parts of Asia in a remarkably short period of time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I thought no one was prosecuted in that case.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think it says more about the personalities on each side. ICE loving climate deniers are aggressive by nature.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, it's more that people who care about climate change are good at long term thinking. There are no cuddly animals to rescue right now, so people who want instant gratification do other things.

People who are good at long term thinking commit fewer types of impulse crimes. Vandalism is an unintelligent way to get your point across. There's nothing inherently wrong with the paint job on the SUV.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

I've seen ICE folks run cyclists off of roads. I don't think I've ever seen an EV or cyclist attack a shitwagon.

I dunno man, how ever you measure it I think the ice folks are more aggressive by nature, these are the same coal rolling fucks who like to pollute intentionally as a 'fuck you' to environmentalists.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Maybe environmental movements don't attract the types of people who do this stuff or maybe it's not personal it's impersonal? Big difference between being told in your childhood house of worship that you are going to happy sky place if you die for skydaddy or seeing your uncle dragged off in the night vs. seeing a PowerPoint about climate change. Or maybe it's just a number game. Environmental groups just don't have enough people to get them in the pool.

Not sure.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago

They probably just wanted to see if it's really bulletproof..

[–] _haha_oh_wow_ 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Can't say I agree. For example, if someone hits you with their car? It's ok to scratch it.

Edit: The downvotes on this are fucking unreal, imagine being upset that the person you just mowed over scratched your car. Fuck right off with that bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

For example, if someone hits you with their car? It's ok to scratch it.

Are you 12?

Or do you just see every unfortunate occurrence as personal victimization?

[–] _haha_oh_wow_ 1 points 7 months ago

Troll harder kid, you'll get it one day!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Carrie Underwood has an entire song about how you are wrong.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

Yeah but it's not a stranger in the song

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

You know, I agree. But also, you can't imagine how much I want to scratch the cars that just park illegally in my neighborhood. They park on the curves and crossings and in such small distances that I literally cannot pass through with my stroller without scratching them. So I end up going around the block(s) further and further away just to pass through some gap of illegally parked cars that's just big enough if I am very careful. But then I end up thinking, wtf. Why do I have to be careful to not scratch their wrongfully parked cars, a private property that they left outside on a place designed and protected by law to be solely for pedestrians, with my private property that should be able to walk this road? And also, why do I not get the same protection if I want to park my bike or stroller outside? Because no one cares if my private property is damaged when it is left outside. If I scratch my stroller on an illegally parked car when I cross the road at the place I am supposed to be crossing somehow I am the one who has to pay damages.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But giving them the finger is

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That doesn’t do expensive damage. I am pro-finger.

Edit: come on, “pro-finger”? Nobody’s gonna take that and run with it? I’m disappointed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

On purpose yes, by accident, what can you do

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

True. I had intentional damage in mind.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Even then, in a “lorry problem” type of scenario, it could be OK. Like, you have a lever and there’s a fascist con-man polluting the world with bad ideas and products, and you could either do nothing or use the lever to go to town on one of those products to send a message to his supporters, I know what I would do