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For Mike Johnson it was effectively a Day 1 priority.

It’s well past time, the newly elected House speaker said in October, to establish a bipartisan commission to tackle the federal government’s growing $34.6 trillion in debt. “The consequences if we don’t act now are unbearable,” he said, echoing warnings from his predecessor and other House Republicans.

More than six months later, the proposal appears all but dead, extinguished by vocal opposition from both the right and the left.

The collapse underscores an unyielding dynamic in Washington, with lawmakers in both parties loath to consider the unpopular tradeoffs that would be necessary to stem the nation’s swelling tide of red ink — particularly in an election year. Facing the reality that any fiscal commission would almost certainly suggest that Americans pay more or get less from their government, lawmakers have time and again done what they do so well: punt the problem to the next Congress. And they seem poised to do so again.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Conservatives comprised the majority of Republicans before 2016. Trump saw a rift in the party and tore it wide open.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I do not disagree with what you’re saying.

My point was that this hypocrisy about the national debt predates MAGA by like 40 years. I posted an article explaining it all. Two Santa Clause Theory.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I was only commenting on ~~your~~ the use of the term conservatives in place of Republicans. They’re not synonymous anymore. I completely agree with your point about the hypocrisy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I see what you’re saying. For what it’s worth I never used either term. That was u/originallucifer.

You have piqued my interest though. What would you consider Republicans if they aren’t conservatives? I consider them Far right conservatives. Radical conservatives if you will.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

They’re not fiscally conservative if they can’t balance a budget. Right wing or Republicans is what I use. I didn’t notice that you weren’t the initial commenter. Sorry about that. I corrected my mistake.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The sad part is no Republican since Eisenhower in 1960 has had a balanced budget.

Clinton handed GW Bush a budget surplus in 2001 and is the last time we’ve had a balanced budget.

So by your definition Republicans have not been conservative in a very long time?

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYFSD

Edit: I initially listed LBJs 1969 surplus as the most recent Republican balanced budget due to a brain fart forgetting he was a Democratic politician.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Disagree completely. Trump conservatives are just your normal conservatives who aren't afraid to say things out loud anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They’d have to demonstrate fiscal responsibility to be accurately labeled as conservatives.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

No they don't. That's always been a lie they tell.