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[-] [email protected] 253 points 2 months ago

"Kentucky Attorney General Russell Coleman accused President Biden of being “willing to sacrifice the American auto industry and its workers in service of its radical green agenda."

I mean we could try and transition workers from a more negative industry type to a positive one...but that seems like a lot of work and less profitable, so never mind.

[-] [email protected] 142 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

What the actual fuck is wrong with Republican politicians? I mean, I already know what's wrong with Republican voters - brainwashing by years of Fox "News" - but the politicians? Are they all literal sociopaths?

[-] [email protected] 106 points 2 months ago

No, they're just doing what they're being paid to do by special interest groups aka big business. It's not a bug and it's not a feature; it's the point. Optimal profits this quarter. Every quarter is a new quasi generation of executives who want a good quarter before moving on after x quarters.

[-] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago

The philosophy behind conservativism is to stay still. Conserve the status. Do not progress.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago

But you're describing a standard Dem. Repubs are actively trying to drag us backwards. They are regressives.

[-] skatrek47 13 points 2 months ago

This is so infuriating, especially when it’s so easy to show that voting against progressive initiatives also hurts their own constituents…

[-] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

This is so infuriating, especially when it’s so easy to show that voting against progressive initiatives also hurts their own constituents…

"I don't care how much it hurts me, as long as the people I hate are also getting hurt!"

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I'm already depressed as it is. Why do you have to do me in like that?

[-] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

That's a popular misconception. The philosophy behind conservatism is to perpetuate hierarchy. The ideology was developed by literal monarchists, and when the "divine right" excuse became untenable they moved on to others like racism and capitalism, but the goal remained the same. It only seems like they want to maintain the status quo because the historical status quo was hierarchical, but rest assured: if society were magically egalitarian instead, conservatives would vigorously try to make sweeping, wholesale changes to create a hierarchy from scratch.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Interesting insight. Thanks for the correction. Perhaps the choice of lexeme "conservatism" would best be swapped for a neologism like "hierarchism" or something to better describe the principles of the school of thought. Otherwise, I made the connection like OC that conservatism = no change, whether good or bad.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Otherwise, I made the connection like OC that conservatism = no change, whether good or bad.

That's exactly what they want you to think. It's one of the more prominent ways in which they launder their ideology to make it seem appealing to more people than just sociopaths. (Or at least, used to, until they went full mask-off under Trump.)

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yes. The term has been kind of redefined in practise from massive misuse. Just like many others.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Correct.

They are in charge and are going to do everything to keep it that way.

As you said.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

Nothing. They're behaving quite rationally.

You just have to understand that their motivation is not "successful governing" or "making the world better" but rather, "getting more money."

When you view their actions through the lens of self-enrichment, they're behaving quite normally.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

You gotta know at this point the system has feedback. Its possible most of them were raised on the same shit their constituents are huffing.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

ever since the tea party and especially trump the inmates are running the asylum

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Nah before that was Bush and Cheney getting us into decades long wars in Iraq and Afghanistan because some Saudis attacked us.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

It's been so long that the inmates are running the asylum in the GOP these days.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

When you brainwashed for generations, you end with brainwashed in politics. This is just the beginning.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

It’s just simple corruption (or lobby, as it’s called in the US), they are saying what the highest bidder asks them to say

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Are they all literal sociopaths?

Yes. Just pick one and pay attention to what they do and say for a little while.

[-] freebee 2 points 2 months ago

rustbelting makes voters transition from democrat to republican. you could argue that they actually benefit from declining industry, so of course they're going for it

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

omg politicians being bad I'm absolutely gobsmacked

[-] winterayars 73 points 2 months ago

The American auto industry could also produce EVs, if it so chose. Nobody has to lose their jobs.

[-] [email protected] 61 points 2 months ago

As an American auto worker, I like our move to EVs and the jobs at the massive new factories we built. But I guess wanting blue collar workers learning new skills and technologies makes me a gay communist.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago
[-] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago

All communists are gay trans fairy men who love satan and hate guns. Didn't you get the pamphlet?

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I've been dodging memos and pamphlets for some time now.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

Two groups conservatives hate.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Because nonsensical insults are their bread and butter, and just being a communist isn't good enough anymore.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

just being a communist isn't good enough anymore.

Especially since they love Russia now (because it's fascist), but the distinction between the communist USSR and the fascist Russian Federation confuses a lot of their base.

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Tesla is an American company. The 'traditional' American auto companies like GM and Ford don't even build or source a lot of their parts in the US and Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep has been owned by a European company for quite a while now. This guy is a chump and I wish someone would have called him out on his BS.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

This guy is a chump and I wish someone would have called him out on his BS.

It's no wonder. He's a Republican, so that automatically makes him a assbag. Also, Toyota has a Camry manufacturing plant in Georgetown, Ford assembles Escapes in Louisville, and of course GM makes Corvettes in Bowling Green, so it's no surprise that he'd be regressive towards automotive tech (even though Ford and SK are spending like $4 billion to build two battery manufactuing plants outside Louisville).

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Maybe someone should create EV incentives, with a requirement to be manufactured in country - both incentive to buy and incentive to manufacturers to invest in guaranteed growth area, and for their own future. Oops, that’s what we already have

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[-] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago

There's also nothing stopping the big three from making EVs.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago

And making more than the minimum the government requires them to make for quota. Demand is even there now, so there's no excuse other than the bottom line, plus a bit of cooperation with the oil companies.

[-] Grandwolf319 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So I keep hearing people say:

“Just wait until the big players get into the game, then I’ll buy a good car”.

Imo the big players don’t deserve to survive this transition. They had their opportunity to spearhead it but instead literally chose to be on the wrong side of history.

Nothing stopping big players but greed to get into the EV game.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Yeah but it's cheaper to just kill the competition than expand into a whole new sector.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Perhaps they'd like to rollback all the times we've bailed out the auto industry. We don't want the government to be choosing winners and losers, after all.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Please do. "too big to fail" is bullshit. All the equipment getting liquidated could have went to companies that could have started up for pennies. I can only imaging how many companies could have started and where they'd be today if they were allowed to do their thing.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

I'm really tired of republicans calling anything democrats do "radical" or "extreme" when they're just pushing for the most mild stuff. I would die for some actual radical left ideas.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't know what this guy is pissed about. China is going to make their EVs in Mexico, like responsible American companies!

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

They've already made contracts and announcements for France as well.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

The funny part is that the US could just subsidize their EVs at the same rate and keep China out, but they'd rather sacrifice their whole auto industry to keep subsidizing oil.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

It’s not even less profitable.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

That’s weird, because my Ford PHEV was assembled in Kentucky.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

and its worker

UAW got bipartisan support, right?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

It's almost like one of the main functions a functioning federal government is to create and regulate new markets. But why bother politicians with work when they can just try to bully people into complacency.

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