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[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

i think beyond possibly getting paid for it, trump also wanted to pull a kissinger except with russia this time.

also the fact he isnt already in jail gives me strong "not a real democracy" vibes from the US.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can you elaborate on "pull a Kissinger?"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

i mean his strategy to try and approximate with china, ussr's biggest ally at that time, to make it easier to overthrow/control them. basically divide to conquer, but swap out the countries.

the republican narrative in general seem to be very anti-china and hint a lot about war with them, but not so much with russia which can be considered just as much of a rival if not more. especially right now with the ukraine war. i'm thinking republicans want to be on good terms with russia and ukraine be damned so they can more easily isolate what its currently a huge economic partner from china. they are currently doing this in india apparently successfully. so they are getting cozy with russians and being quiet about it to try and have them as semi-friends somehow.

big disclaimer though: i think this strategy is very dumb, and i doubt this will work. i don't think trump is capable of the evil genius villian shit kissinger was. just the comically evil dumb fascism we expect from him, and that no head of state not already aligned with the specific brand of us-republican fascism will take.

at best they will get used for russia's benefit. which is looking like the case already with all the suff coming out about it in the investigations lololololol

[–] Justas 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This line of reasoning is inspired by a theory in international relations called "realism", with Mearsheimer, Mordhaus, etc. as their core theorists.

It states that the world is divided by superpowers, fighting for power constantly, with all other countries being mere poker chips for them to divide amongst themselves. What countries or people in them want is largely irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

gives me strong "not a real democracy" vibes from the US.

Your vibes are indeed correct.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B

Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence. The results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh, that's what the final straw was for you? Been here long?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

oh no, just one of the straws you can point at when someone tries to argue the us has freedom or democracy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Fair. I know that straw well, among others. It's been our biggest export for generations! 😅😶 Don't let the local Democracy Officer hear you, though. 🤫