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[–] [email protected] 66 points 8 months ago (2 children)

UBH!

(Universal Basic Housing)

All these Universal Basic * programs seem to work, and the only things holding them back are rich people not wanting to be taxed, and the people they have brainwashed into supporting them.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (2 children)

idk, America seems to push Universal Basic Gun Owning pretty hard. Can't say that it's helping anyone tho.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Hah! I almost wish that were true, just so more poor leftists would arm themselves. Guns (and ammo) are fucking expensive and there are no subsidies.

[–] ljubashin 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

As a European, how much does it actually cost to buy a gun in US?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

A 9mm handgun can be as cheap as $100, however that is for a quite poor quality gun (hipoint). For something that is more standard, higher quality handgun like the Glock 19 is around $500.

There are some additional fees, if you buy online you have to have it shipped to an FFA which may charge you, in my state, you either need a conceal carry permit, or a 'pistol purchase permit' the conceal carry is like a lifetime pass to buy guns, with the idea being you proved you can be safe by doing the CCW courses and exams. The pistol purchase permit is like $15 and involves a background check.

Private sales require no ancillary permits or anything, so a used hi point 9mm could probably realistically be as low as $50-$75 if it were quite beat up.

A box of ammo for a 9mm may cost around $20 for 20 bullets depending on where you live and such.

That seems cheap and it is. But for regular use at a shooting range for example, a single box would only last a couple a minutes. If you wanted to go for an 'all day' thing at the range, it would cost $100-$200 (about 200 rounds) plus the fees for the range, $20 - $100 depending on the place, unless you have safe private property. Though with a hi point, it will probably fall apart before you get 200 rounds through it 😅.

Things do get real expensive though for people like shooting as a hobby, as more exotic ammo can get very expensive ($10-$15 a bullet or even higher)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Jeez, that's way more expensive than I expected, especially the ammo. How is shooting that common of a hobby in the states with those prices?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Remember, the US is huge. It costs different things in different areas. In Silicon Valley, the cost seems to be around two hundred ipads.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

that was for 4 concealed carry permits, so 50 ipads per permit. i'm pretty sure that the guns themselves are a hell of a lot cheaper lol

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

But people might be lazy without the constant looming threat of exposure and humiliation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

It might be interesting to see. Let's try giving people the basic necessities for once, and see how things work out!