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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We COULD do this, if every lobbyist were disposed of and we similarly handled the billionaires. Otherwise there’s no hope here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The EFF and ACLU employ lobbyists.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

The fact that a terrible system is being used by both good and bad actors does not mean the system should be protected.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Corruption isn't only on one side.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Hmm, my point is more that lobbying the government is essentially the same as petitioning the government, which is a protected right for good reason. While we could certainly be doing more to clamp down on kickbacks (e.g. Clarence Thomas), to ban lobbying wholesale would be to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Killing the people using the system and not the system itself just treats the symptoms, but not the disease.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not advocating violence, but don't the symptoms need handled to treat the disease at some point?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Kind of? If the disease (Capitalism) goes away, so too will the symptoms. It isn't necessary to kill the Bourgeousie, just make them irrelevant and whither away.

If the state does not uphold their rights to property, they have no power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Right. 'Handle' was not necessarily code for 'murder'. But something's gotta give and the aforementioned bourgeoisie are unlikely to take whatever that ends up being lying down.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Revolution is generally what will be required, yes, just not mass extermination of Capitalists or anything. Capitalists only have power via the state, after all.