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[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

But not voluntarily. Since it's.integrated with apt you randomly get snap garbage installed instead.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I use Ubuntu.

Downvotes to the right mocking laughs to my face.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Ubuntu may be good at being semi-stable.

Just run unsnap and experience actually secure apps.

Did you know that Snaps are only sandboxed on Ubuntu with Apparmor? This makes them more versatile than Flatpaks using Bubblewrap (the whole system is sandboxed like that) but will break all sandboxing if systems dont use Apparmor, or dont include all patches.

[–] Vendetta9076 3 points 4 months ago

Before the current itteration of my homelab I used Ubuntu. Never used snap tho.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Last I used Ubuntu, removing snap was a one time thing that took 5 minutes, of which 4 of them was looking for my notes from the time before.

I ditched Ubuntu, but it wasn't because of snap. Maybe this has changed in the last 3 years?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Yes. Now if you use apt to install Firefox or Thunderbird, it will reinstall snap and install the snap versions of those programs.
If you blacklist snap, it'll throw an error when you try to install Firefox or Thunderbird cause it can't resolve their "dependencies".
You'll have to install those programs from outside of Ubuntu's repositories, and the list of affected programs is growing.
Ubuntu's stated goal is to eventually use snap for all userland apps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (8 children)
[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

One of the top most used distros probably

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (9 children)

This thread is a good example of just how circlejerky and bubble like lemmy has become.

You are correct. Outside of the hard-core users and tech nerds, Ubuntu is massively popular. But you listen to this community, and you'd think the opposite.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Most of us do live in bubbles (not exclusive to lemmy or tech nerds). I first picked up Ubuntu in 2004. It was a massive leap forward at the time as Gnome was moving a lot faster than Debian stable and I was running Sid to keep up. I am genuinely surprised everytime I learn Ubuntu is still "popular" as they have made so many NIH misteps over the years (mir,upstart,unity,snap) and frustrated their users. I moved back to Debian years ago for server/dev as Ubuntu re-packaging wasn't adding any value and once I was on another distro for desktop I lost all interest.

Ubuntu started off with some amazing community building. It felt more like a peoples distro than Canonicals for a time. I felt more invested in it in those days so I can relate to Ubuntu users but I also understand some of the criticism aimed at Canonical and their choices.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

True. I've always felt more at home in Ubuntu and its derivatives. Debian is quite nice too.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (24 children)

Like Windows, Ubuntu is installed by default on many computers. In my university, all the computers have a dual boot Ubuntu Windows.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Haha in mine they have Ubuntu stickers on them but no Ubuntu to be found.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Still in the process of moving my server from Ubuntu to Debian.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That should be possible by changing the repos, shouldnt it? I will try this in a VM.

Downgrading will be harder than rebasing from Ubuntu LTS to Debian Sid for example. But at the same time I imagine its easier to downgrade from Sid to Stable on the same Distro.

[–] dandroid 4 points 4 months ago (15 children)

Not the person you are replying to, but my server is on Ubuntu. It was the distro my work used and it was probably the only distro I had heard of at the time I set up my server. At this point I run so much shit that can never go down on my server that I will never consider touching the distro ever.

Plus, who cares? It's a server. I don't interact with the distro. I only ssh in, run services through containers, and add port forwards. Every distro is identical for that stuff. I even prefer old kernel and package versions for ultra stability, as my server can never go down. Sure, Debian would be the same, but why touch it now? That's just asking for headache.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

It works for me, and my tinkering times are behind me.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Yes, just not the people who hang out on Linux communities on federated social media.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

People still use Ubuntu?

They're currently number 6 on DistroWatch's Last 6 Months. So people are at least still interested in it.

The DistroWatch Page Hit Ranking statistics are a light-hearted way of measuring interest in Linux distributions and other free operating systems among the visitors of this website. They correlate neither to usage nor to quality and should not be used to measure the market share of distributions. They simply show the number of times a distribution page on DistroWatch was accessed each day, nothing more.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

They simply show the number of times a distribution page on DistroWatch was accessed each day, nothing more.

Which can be manipulated by scripting or setting the browser's home page to the DistroWatch page of a distribution. No way in hell is MX Linux actually popular.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

DistroWatch is extremely weird. Who actually uses MXLinux and all these obscure Distros?

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