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[–] [email protected] 164 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

I like the unspoken part where the people who have lived in this home must vacate when she decides she wants to spend a few years living in the UK again. They should have to find new accommodation when it suits her, but she is not subject to such requirements.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Tbh that's the reason she bought and rents it out in the first place, so I'm sure she's aware

[–] [email protected] 66 points 8 months ago

yeah I don't think she's unaware. just emphasizing that the asymmetric nature of the relationship extends past just profiting off a basic need.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don't know how it is the UK, but usually there is a contract period and a minimum period to respect to break the contract.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I don’t know how it its where you live/the UK but there is probably a special clause/law that allows the owner to end the contract if they want to use the property themselves.

Edit: Downvote as much as you want but at least in Germany and France such clauses exist.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

In France there is such a clause, but applicable only if the owner plans to rent to a family member of theirs, iirc

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Same here in Germany and I would assume it is pretty common.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

This seems incorrect as far as I understand the source. You still have to respect the contract end date if you recover it for yourself or family. It is just one of the legitimate reasons to block the automatic renewal of the contract. https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F929/personnalisation/resultat?lang=&quest0=1&quest=

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yes, this is what I meant. Thanks for clarifying

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Downvoting because you know damn well how tight the rental market is. You're not guaranteed to find a new apartment in the grace period you have before your eviction is due. Moving also incurs significant time and cost for moving your stuff, lost work days, and the rent which is sure to be higher.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That is my point! You can’t rely on a minimum clause when your landlord can evict you by claiming they want to live there themselves.

I never claimed that that I like this or that this somehow good. The housing market is a steaming pile of shit pretty much worldwide.

As a renters we(!) need be very aware of local laws and regulations regarding rent. Own use claim is not the only way to get evicted: in some cases fixing something in your flat might by regarded as a violation of contract and you’re out.

I have an old contract in one of tightest markets in Germany. If I had to move out my rent would triple.

So yes, I’m aware of the shit market - take my comment as a heads up, not a praise of the situation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Fair enough, I'm sorry, that's my bad, I totally misinterpreted your comment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

well i guess it's fine, then. got myself all worked up over nothing

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

When you added it all up I am pretty confident I spent about 8K USD on my last move. When she is done having fun her sefs will be out that money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I had a sociopathic narcissistic ex-boyfriend who did that. He owned a townhouse that people were renting out, and when his wife left him and their house was foreclosed and he got evicted, he kicked out his tenants and moved into his townhouse.

HE KICKED OUT HIS TENANTS SO HE COULD MOVE IN 😟

I do not approve of this master/slave dynamic that the housing industry has created. It's inhumane, unethical, sociopathic,

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I recently bought an apartment, and while I was searching I always made sure to ask if the apartments I was looking at were being rented (the listings never disclosed that information), and giving up on the ones that had tenants living in them. This always earned me weird looks from the agents - "you can just buy the apartment and kick them out". Yes, the law and the contract will allow it, but my conscience wouldn't.

[–] SuddenDownpour 4 points 8 months ago

"Is this... Empathy? In the year 2024? How old-fashioned." The agents.