rainrain

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[–] rainrain -1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

"anchor like function" and community standards aside...

The central thing that the technique does. The stillness, clarity etc. For that it doesn't matter at all.

[–] rainrain -2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Cheesecake doesn’t make you think of...

What one thinks doesn't matter. Because thinking has nothing to do with this technique.

...Shakyamuni said...pali canon...mahayana sutras...primal vows...

Scriptural relevance doesn't matter either.

What matters is what you are doing with your awareness. In this meditation technique you are directing your awareness at a thing (the repeated phrase) and holding it there. Like you would hold a thing in your hand.

It doesn't matter if the thing that you hold is a pebble, a grape or a chip of wood. It's the same holding.

This nembutsu meditation is a variety of samatha. The "object" in this case being a scripturally-relevant phrase.

The phrase is not chosen because the phrase has special power. The phrase is chosen because we like scripture.

[–] rainrain -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I am of the opinion that you would get the same effect by repeating "cheesecake".

But I'm open to argument.

I have some experience in repeating-words type meditation.

[–] rainrain 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That fruit hangs so low you needed to dig a hole to pick it

[–] rainrain -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I have done a bit of "concentrating on breathing" meditation.

There's a lot to breathing. The sound of it. The thought of it (if I'm counting breaths). The feeling of it, in my belly, throat and nose...

I find all those things to be too much to concentrate on. So I concentrate on just one of those things. I concentrate on the feeling of breath in the tip of my nose.

[–] rainrain 1 points 2 days ago
[–] rainrain 2 points 2 days ago (6 children)

What do you do in nembutsu?

[–] rainrain -1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I don't think it matters why you meditate.

Meditation helps me with stress too. And use it for other less than elevated reasons too.

What technique do you like?

[–] rainrain 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The military can physically push everybody around but that doesn't mean that you have to buy into this "age of majority in late teens" thing, surely.

[–] rainrain 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I can respect that. I can't say that I have any strong beliefs either.

But then there's "keep the bills paid or things will get bad". But that's strongly empirically based.

And there are beliefs like "reality is composed of a multitude of things flapping around in time and space" which is popular but stands on the rock of mere convention (ok, maybe it's deeper than that). And might bear questioning. How strong is my belief there? I dunno.

I assume that our culture delivers a fair sack of authority-based beliefs. It would be nice to get a list.

But then it's like asking a fish what water tastes like.

[–] rainrain -1 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I meditate. Shikantaza every day. I used to do concentration for a few years. Then both for a few years. Now just Shikantaza.

(I am of the opinion that there are only 2 meditation techniques, the rest being relatively trivial twists).

You?

[–] rainrain -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's a great idea. But people are touchy about that. This is where democracy fails.

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do you meditate? (self.buddhism)
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If so then I'd like to talk.

 

It's weird. The simple fact of being watched and told what you can say. And the possibility that what you're saying is being edited and what you're hearing is edited too.

This strikes me as abhorrent. But most of the people here call it necessary, preferable and even desirable.

 

Yes, I know, trolls etc. But such action turns any conversation into a bad joke. And anybody who trusts a moderator is a fool.

Find a better way.

 

Divide and conquer.

So many people here are ready to fight at the slightest dissent. So ready to censor and ban.

It's unnatural.

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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by rainrain to c/[email protected]
 

And stuff related to that. When you pay attention, focus... get so concentrated on something that you get sucked in...

What is that like? Can you describe it?

And in the opposite direction. What is it like to be distracted?

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