Why bother. Theyll just catch on fire on their own.
piccolo
joined 5 months ago
"Purging" normally meant "expulsion from Party membership" and carried no actual punishment. For criminals who were purged, that also included jail time or even execution. The myth that everyone purged was executed comes from the Black Book of Communism,
Your words. So you agree the great purge occured... so how are you going to explain how 1 million executions were justified and how many more does it need to be to stop being mythical?
You do know "purging" wasnt being sent off to a happy little farm, right?
I said purging opposition is a facist purge. And can you really say "citizens" support it when elections were limited by choices preapprpved by the communist party? Even if it were supported by the majority... then that simply makes them no better than the nazis purging their population. Do you support genocide? It sounds a lot like you support genocide.
Im tired of these wasted arguments. I agree the soviets were not facists in the strictest sense. But my entire point is the result of the soviet model lead to the exact same autocracy authoritarian government that denied their civilians right to their own voices.
Lets see here... the definition of facism
Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.
authoritarian: check
dictatorial leader: check
militarism: check
forcible suppression of opposition: check
subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation: check
strong regimentation of society and the economy: check
It may claim to be a turkey, but its seems to be clucking a lot like a chicken.
Sounds a lot like facism in a trench coat.
Who is the proletariat but people? What if they wanted any of those things? Their ideas are qlworthless because they dont fit your very narrow view? You are no better than the US republicans who label everyone they dont like as "communists".
I mean, im not the one trying to make a claim that they were democratic while forbiding any ideology that opposes theirs. The mental gymnastics involved here could be the next Olympic event.
As I said, the argument was if the USSR was autocratic. Noone disagrees rather or not they were socialists nor they make offical statments they intended on working toward communism.
But its very clear that the leadership was very autocratic and anti-democractic and only accepted undying loyalty.
Lets be honest. China doesnt care if they cook the planet all the same. What matters is enegry independency.