conciselyverbose

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[–] conciselyverbose 6 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Because actual neuroscientists understand and use information theory.

[–] conciselyverbose -4 points 3 months ago (7 children)

No, I am saying that I do have a meaningful working knowledge of how the brain works, and information theory, beyond the literal surface level it would take to understand that the headline is bullshit.

You don't need to be a Nobel prize winning physicist to laugh at a paper claiming gravity is impossible. This headline is that level. Literally just processing a word per second completely invalidates it, because an average vocabulary of 20k means that every word, by itself, is ~14 bits of information.

[–] conciselyverbose 13 points 3 months ago (10 children)

There is no other definition of bit that is valid in a scientific context. Bit literally means "binary digit".

Information theory, using bits, is applied to the workings of the brain all the time.

[–] conciselyverbose -4 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Argument to authority doesn't strengthen your argument.

A piece of paper is not a prerequisite to the extremely basic level of understanding it takes to laugh at this.

[–] conciselyverbose 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Understanding it is active thought. And processing the words, as words with meaning, is required to formulate a relevant response.

The more than 10 bits each word is are part of your active thought.

[–] conciselyverbose -3 points 3 months ago (11 children)

The headline is completely incompatible with multiple large bodies of scientific evidence. It's the equivalent of claiming gravity doesn't exist. Dismissing obvious nonsense is a necessary part of filtering the huge amount of information available.

But I did read the abstract and it makes the headline look reasonable by comparison.

[–] conciselyverbose -5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (13 children)

The point is that it's literally impossible for the headline to be anything but a lie.

I don't need to dig further into a headline that claims cell towers cause cancer because of deadly cell signal radiation, and that's far less deluded than this headline is.

The core concept is entirely incompatible with even a basic understanding of information theory or how the brain works.

(But I did read the abstract, not knowing it's the abstract because it's such nonsensical babble. It makes it even worse.)

[–] conciselyverbose -5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (15 children)

It doesn't matter what it says.

A word is more than 10 bits on its own.

[–] conciselyverbose -5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (17 children)

There is literally nothing the paper could say and no evidence they could provide to make the assertion in the title anything less than laughable.

There are hundreds of systems in your brain that are actively processing many, many orders of magnitude more than ten bits of information per second all the time. We can literally watch them do so.

It's possible the headline is a lie by someone who doesn't understand the research. It's not remotely within the realm of plausibility that it resembles reality in any way.

[–] conciselyverbose 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (19 children)

He's not.

Executive function has limited capacity, but executive function isn't your brain (and there's no reasonable definition that limits it to anything as absurd as 10 bits). Your visual center is processing all those bits that enter the eyes. All the time. You don't retain all of it, but retaining any of it necessarily requires processing a huge chunk of it.

Literally just understanding the concept of car when you see one is much more than 10 bits of information.

[–] conciselyverbose 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There's no plausible way to even encode any arbitrary idea into 10 bits of information.

[–] conciselyverbose 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There's no particular reason for every app to search the web, though. There's plenty of reason for a wide variety of apps to need maps.

Maps are a broad value tool. Searching the web isn't. A web search engine is just a search engine. It's not a meaningful value add to any arbitrary developer who wants to build apps for iPhone.

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