agamemnonymous

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[–] agamemnonymous 2 points 3 days ago

So? Just because someone chooses not to follow the reason, that doesn't make the reason invalid. If anything you're only proving the failures of a passion-driven ethical model, if the psychopath's passion is inflicting pain there's nothing to keep them from behaving unethically.

[–] agamemnonymous 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It is the logical extension of noticing the similarities between yourself and others, and noticing that you do not enjoy pain. It's certainly not mathematically rigorous, but it follows from simple reasoning nonetheless. If you wanted to be rigorous, you can't even claim that you don't like pain, only that you haven't liked specific instances of pain in the past. Some estimations are necessary for a functioning framework of any kind, including ethics.

[–] agamemnonymous 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That probably has a lot to do with it. Doubling the workforce let's employers be way pickier.

[–] agamemnonymous 2 points 3 days ago (5 children)
  1. I am a sentient creature that feels pain and pleasure

  2. Others appear to be sentient creatures that feel pain and pleasure

  3. Pain is bad, so I should avoid inflicting it

You don't need empathy as an axiom to derive it rationally

[–] agamemnonymous 1 points 3 days ago (7 children)

I disagree. Reason can take you there by virtue of justice or equality.

[–] agamemnonymous 4 points 3 days ago (15 children)

No? Once reason restricts passion, the hierarchy collapses. An action that causes yourself mild pain, but pleasure of greater extent to others, is preferable to an action that causes many others pain even if it gives you pleasure personally. Reason demands you restrain yourself from the passions that would harm others. That's not unilateral fealty. Axioms must be assumed, but the most powerful systems assume as few as possible, and leave most of the legwork to reason.

[–] agamemnonymous 10 points 3 days ago

how badly could a pelican fuck me up in a fight?

DISCLAIMER - I am not planning on fighting a pelican.

there's a brown pelican that hangs out...

Poetry.

Actually, wait...

how badly could a

pelican fuck me up in

a fight? DISCLAIMER

.

I am not planning

on fighting a pelican.

There's a brown peli-

[–] agamemnonymous 9 points 3 days ago

They look so incredibly practical. It's so function-driven, I love it.

[–] agamemnonymous 2 points 3 days ago

Own the libs. That's the whole thing.

[–] agamemnonymous 6 points 3 days ago (17 children)

Bentham developed hedonistic calculus. The foundation is a multivariate ethical vector space. He rationalized hedonism to the extreme. The passions are explicitly tempered for a calculated greater good.

[–] agamemnonymous 17 points 4 days ago (8 children)

What I read is his friends identified him as economically leftist, but took issue with identity politics

[–] agamemnonymous 1 points 4 days ago

Huh, just noticed that.

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