SreudianFlip

Yeah I was pointing out that the prison system may be completely ineffective where it's based on punishment. It's a critical view, not prescriptive, and designing a new system requires a revolutionary approach, with consideration for the needs of the victims as well as the mental state of the perpetrators.

I wasn't proposing anything pat and simple like one-size-fits-all incarceration, completely the opposite, actually. Maybe forever in prison, maybe no jail time. Justice, in terms of repairing things for a victim, might mean a lifelong burden for the convicted, or something else entirely. It would necessarily be complex. More emotional, less rational people would have a problem with that since they can't see justice without punishment.

Why would they result in the same sentence? That's a strange proposal that I have never heard before.

Regarding rehab, well that's a procedural question more than legislative. Ask experts in the field. It's not like the problem is new, even if it's evident we are going about it fundamentally wrong.

Uh, sure it does, in the sense that if someone is unable to be rehabilitated, they should be kept away from the public? Not sure what you're asking except maybe "can I please just have a little revenge?"

This principle applies to many stores. If you shop at a mattress store the mattress pads are priced at triple the value.

I'm unfortunately dependent upon said company, as a "partner", which just means a hack indie developer who herds customers to the slaughter for the corp.

The last round of layoffs was a brutal experience for the "Plus" customers. They lost crucial advisers and support, and now the guidance available is a bored and untrained chat support thrall on the other side of the world, or a stochastic parrot.

You can smell the enshittification from here. The vendor lock-in is so intense it seemed inevitable.

We learn over and over again from our various texts-of-wisdom, be it fables or scripture or novels or movies, that revenge is a primitive response to problems. It's the moral of so many stories, right?

Yet we organize society to satisfy these immature desires. Punishment, for the most part, is neither deterrent nor corrective, and a paltry form of redress.

Do you want justice? Start with redress. You can't fix the problem of a dead child but the victims need proper support, to alleviate all the other issues caused by the crime. In Canada the prison system is called "corrections" but it mostly fails at that... rehabilitation requires an evidence-based system to succeed, and ours is built on punishment, an emotional response.

If you want deterrence, well that requires eliminating poverty and supplying real education, backed by proactive and robust mental health services.

I define justice as the best possible outcome of a bad situation.

Yes lol except your comment was correct not sarcastic! Just wry on ham. I was addressing the correct part because not enough people know that stuff.

This is kinda true and of course oversimplified.

"Ideology" as a term was first popularized by, surprisingly, Napoleon, as a politically loaded set of ideas akin to a belief system.

Philosophers and economists worked the term over for refinement so that it built up quite a bit of nuance and academic controversy over the next century.

In common vernacular it trended towards simpler uses like a synonym for 'worldview' or 'dogma', but in scholars it's been fractured into contentious specifics.

Terry Eagleton's book Ideology is a good read as he's both a great explainer of historical thought and fairly practical, and he settled on 'a system of ideas and beliefs that allows the oppressed to participate in their own oppression,' which is fairly summarized and useful.

"Ex-girlfriend" ... I think you can put a hypothesis together.

I enjoy alien abduction stories too.