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So are we going with Lem-stralia, Lem-Rok Nor, or Lem-giers as our colony name?

If they have a point it’s because they manufactured it.

I'm not sure I entirely follow where you are going with this. My assumption is that you mean by them supporting the path of least resistance to the potential downfall and assumed reorientation of the economic/political system that the only points they have are a result of self-fulfilling prophecy. In which case, I guess I kind of agree because this is somewhat the same from a conceptual standpoint as the Evangelicals who think that every bad thing that happens is a sign of ushering in the rapture and therefore them getting their duty free pass to heaven. The accelerationists obviously have a more cogent point I would argue since it is based around a materialist philosophy at its core, but I generally agree that it is still misguided none the less...

Personally I’m too stubborn to just roll over and give up. That’s what they want. Don’t give them that satisfaction.

Yeah, I hear ya. I try to keep that stoic mentality that the mission hasn't changed just because the circumstances have. It is just annoying to always feel like you can so clearly see the issues coming from a million miles away, and yet with all of the advancements we have made society still manages to hit the iceberg anyway.

Get involved at the local and state levels. Those are our easiest avenues to affect change going forward.

My personal life has evolved over the last year in a way that this has actually become possible, so I have been intellectualizing on how to actually do this effectively now that the proverbial other shoe has dropped this week. I am heavily considering how I can utilize my voice & my life path in a way that is politically expedient and does some real material good in the world that's for fuck sure.

And over the next 4 years hope a halfway decent candidate that puts the people and worker protections at the top of their list of issues to run on and support the hell out of them. Or if you’re eligible, run yourself. I’d happily support an average citizen running for their peers.

One can only hope that through the madness it becomes a centralizing force that perhaps effectuates the rising of a new breed of stronger, more voracious, and aggressive leftist candidates who leave behind the PC culture virtue signaling communication strategies in favor of something more akin to Bernie Sanders & Noam Chomsky mixed with Eminem & Immortal Technique. Until the left is willing to shake up the cultural hegemony of institutionalist thinking in favor of some more militant rhetoric we are going to continue getting curb stomped in the information war. It is time to lose the civility, put on the fucking plate carrier, and treat these right wing hack commentators with maximum intellectual disrespect in my view.

I am convinced at this point that the country would have been infinitely better off in the long-term if Biden had lost in 2020.

The clown show incompetence of the OG Trump administration would have continued, Roe would have been overturned on Trump's watch, and people would have been getting seriously dry fucked in the ass with a sand paper condom on by the economy right now.

We would have seen extreme rage at Donald Trump in a way that would have broken the illusion for a lot more of the mentally deficient people in the country, and it probably would have led to him being legitimately tried and convicted.

But like usual the Democrats manage to get it together just enough to eek out a useless victory that somehow manages to fuck shit up even worse later, and teach the institutionalist fucktards the exact wrong lessons. Given the existing timeline we are in now it really makes you wonder if the accelerationists have a point or not...

The goal needs to be a total social and economic embargo. Completely exclude them from our lives in any way possible. We are now in an existential war for the future of liberal society. Let's hope it stays mostly ideological, but I'm not holding my breath.

NO APPROACH IS GOING TO WORK.

You cannot reason someone out of a position they did not reason themselves into in the first place. If you think you are going to out-logic any of these people into changing their minds you don't actually understand the way fascist ideology grows & becomes entrenched within a population. Your thought process that you can change their minds by treating them as intelligent members of a well-functioning social order is such okie-doke ass pick-me behavior you should be embarrassed you even attempted to float it. That only serves to further reinforce the legitimacy of their ideas in their own minds. Grow the fuck up.

There are plenty of perfectly intelligent people that voted for trump.

No, there aren't. The truly intelligent people who support Donald Trump are in the Machiavellian evil camp. They are the herding dogs that use their understanding of the weaknesses of human psychology to manipulate the rest of the stupid, unwashed masses who blindly follow Donald Trump because of their in-group dynamics.

The intelligent epicenter makes up an extremely small margin of hyper-wealthy (and/or) moral Nihilists who's goal is to collapse U.S. hegemony and by-proxy Western society so they can economically enslave the remaining remnants of the human race with discretionary economic power.

So, no, it is not "plenty". It is an incredibly small subset of individuals who actually understand what is going on, and are using it to their direct advantage.

You have just described how every evangelical infantalizes "God's" will. These are learned psychological frameworks that are being copy pasted between different control vectors at will at this point.

I am serious when I say there is no conceivable way to deprogram and reprogram the vast majority of them. The goal needs to be a total social and economic embargo. Completely exclude them from our lives in any way possible.

These words are violence.

That would require me to speak to them, which is something I refuse to do at this point. I'm only interested in communicating with people IRL who wish to be a part of the socio-cultural resistance.

Sick burn 🔥

I see now where the confusion lies I believe. It seems to me that you think I am arguing IN FAVOR of moving to the middle. I am absolutely, unequivocally, and under no circumstances in support of that strategy. What I am arguing is that when you have a candidate with no true ideological convictions, and that does not believe in the radical reorientation of the Democratic party towards true economic populism then the only option you are left with is pandering to the middle. I agree it has been a complete and total failure, and that it was always doomed to fail in the long run even if it miraculously worked in the short term (2020). I knew it was going to be a failed strategy in 2016, I knew it was going to lead to future failure after 2020, and that was proven to be true again in 2024. I fucking agree with you.

I don’t understand why you think working with them, compromising with them when they do nothing but give empty promises and bullshit excuses, is somehow going to magically turn the party left because of one cult-like candidate (who we had, btw, Bernie, the DNC shit all over him, remember) who “centralizes power.”

This is not what I am suggesting at all. I want zero compromise with the right, ever. I want absolute, uncompromising, ideological militance from the left and its leadership. Bernie was never going to provide that. While I absolutely believe in the genuine nature of his beliefs, and appreciate what he did to wake up so much of the Millennial generation in this country, he ultimately was too old and lacked the courage of his convictions.

What we need is new leadership who is willing, ready, and able to build a political apparatus that is capable of organizing and maintaining the advantages that come along with engaging in structural violence when necessary. That means economically embargoing conservative states, and corporations. It means systematically organizing and overtaking local governments in strategically advantageous districts. It means building organizations that allow people to escape regressive social, familial, religious, or economic situations that are keeping them trapped and unproductive to the cause. It means encouraging those people to cut off social access to anyone that does not share in their ideological convictions. No more fucking around. I want a legitimate push toward radicalizing the population, and showing people how to effectively use their numbers to their advantage.

For some reason you thought I was arguing for centrism, when what I am really arguing for is centralized, organized, strategic revolution. Hopefully that clears things up.

I'm fine with tacking to the left.

Until you have someone who is willing to threaten to rally the same kind of structural violence that Donald Trump is capable of in opposition, and actually make good on it, then moving to the middle is the only logical option.

Which fucking part of that did you not understand?

Moving to the left is good, and desirable. If you want to do that effectively you need the advantage of structural violence that is provided by the organized hierarchical structure of a serious political party.

So, we need a candidate who is willing to forcibly restructure the Democratic party in the way Trump did to the Republican party. Simply just wanting a candidate to support more left wing policies is not enough. They must centralize support for those populist positions.